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01-01-2008, 04:07 AM

Well, I was kind of expecting you to make the wrong choice. Fine.

You want to go around believing you're some incredible Samurai living in the modern day, fine.

Discussion over, I'm not wasting any more of my time.


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But, that's always f-ed up individuals that kill in secluded areas up high in the mountains. Thats neither the army nor the governments agenda! I hope those people rott in hell, but an army or government shouldn't be judged by psycho individuals.
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01-01-2008, 04:23 AM

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If you would have picked the child, I'm out of this discussion because it's proof to me that you are insane and not worth the energy it takes to type.


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But, that's always f-ed up individuals that kill in secluded areas up high in the mountains. Thats neither the army nor the governments agenda! I hope those people rott in hell, but an army or government shouldn't be judged by psycho individuals.
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01-01-2008, 05:12 AM

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So they would rather go kill all those people than go to prison. I hope what you are saying is not true. That kind of weakness is sad.
If you are in the military, and you are in a war, you are supposed to fight it. I don't agree with it, but that's just how it goes. All wars in history have innocents being killed for them, which includes the soldiers too, and the US isn't the only country to do so. Look at how the US got into WWII. Japan bombed Pearl Harbor on a Sunday morning (iirc) when soldiers and non-soldiers were sleeping. I don't agree with the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki as a sort of rebuttal since people outside of soldiers were involved, but what's done is done...disgusting as that is.

If you refuse to fight when your leader tells you to, it's a prison sentence. If the entire military refuses, then we get a draft (like in Vietnam), which means even more innocent lives are going to be lost. These people are just doing their jobs, earning a paycheck for their families, even if they don't want to and even if they don't like it. That all goes with being in the military. When the leader says jump, you ask, "How high?" If there's a war, whatever countries involved go fight it. That's simple reasoning. You're ignoring this logic.
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To Tenchu: I totally agree with you on the killing a child vs someone else dropping a nuke on a city.

I am not the one dropping the bomb and I will not be the one killing a child.

I can only be responsible for my own actions.

This same stance applies to the bigger picture. That is why I refuse to join the military.
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01-07-2008, 06:33 PM

i completely agree with Tturtle's opinion..
you should be responsible with your own action.
blaming somebody is a sick act!


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01-08-2008, 09:17 PM

Btw on this whole thing with the nuke and Japan attacking pearl harbor I would just like it to be clear that Japan was provoked. America apprently atked a japanese ship at some point before pearl harbor.
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Btw on this whole thing with the nuke and Japan attacking pearl harbor I would just like it to be clear that Japan was provoked. America apprently atked a japanese ship at some point before pearl harbor.
I don't think a skirmish counts as an attack.

As far as I remember America put an oil embargo on Japan. You could count that as provocation I suppose... but you won't get much sympathy as it was done to cripple it's Imperial expansion into East Asia.
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Do you know in most major cities and so on in conquered and colonized countries like New Zealand, Australia and America, white people are now in a minority. Check the race percentage stats of these countries, you might be surprised. Now, go take a look at the race percentage stats in European countries, compare them with Asian countries and stuff. The tables are turning. White people are now in minorities on the world scale. And the amount of people comeing from colored peoples countries to white countries can be compared to the loads of people comeing in the boats to Aus, NZ and US way back when. I dont really care about any of it, but I see a lot of white people racist against their own race. Mostly for stupid reasons. And a lot of the mexicans wanting to come over are half spanish, and very few of them were from people once inhabiting US soil. They are from central america, and always have been. The Indians from the US stayed, and are still there. No one is comeing back.

Ummm... I'm from New Zealand. White people are still the overwhelming majority. In fact the only city with any real diversity on the same level as London, LA, New York etc is Auckland city. I'm pretty sure it's the same with the US and Australia.

Not that it matters. I just think your assessment is just plain incorrect.
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01-10-2008, 10:18 PM

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I don't think a skirmish counts as an attack.

As far as I remember America put an oil embargo on Japan. You could count that as provocation I suppose... but you won't get much sympathy as it was done to cripple it's Imperial expansion into East Asia.
yes but thats provokeing and what was america doing neway they were not suppose to be doing anything.
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