American in Hiroshima...

[Nanajuu]

There must be someone who has asked this question before, but I can't find the answer, so meh.

An American going to Hiroshima, which was destroyed, what with the WMDs and all, by Americans. Would this be considered disrespectful? Maybe its just me - But I wouldn't want to see a Japanese person at Pearl Harbor.

[Tenchu]

Originally Posted by Nanajuu

But I wouldn't want to see a Japanese person at Pearl Harbor.

That is coz you are an idiot. I find in Thailand most Americans are saying they are Canadians now, coz no body likes them. But their voice and foul attitude gives them away. If you wanne go to Hiroshima, or anywhere for that matter, best say you are Canadian, your country is not much popular no more...

[Nanajuu]

Originally Posted by Tenchu

That is coz you are an idiot. I find in Thailand most Americans are saying they are Canadians now, coz no body likes them. But their voice and foul attitude gives them away. If you wanne go to Hiroshima, or anywhere for that matter, best say you are Canadian, your country is not much popular no more...

You know, not all Americans are foul. I find a lot of them are impatient and lazy, and I do not like that, which is part of the reason I want to get away from here. There are some Americans, like me, for instance, who are actually quite nice. In fact, I strive to be nice to people. Its sort of my philosophy. I enjoy makings others happy.

However, your first sentence: "That is coz you are an idiot." makes you no better than the image you have of us "Foul" Americans.

[Tenchu]

Originally Posted by Nanajuu

You know, not all Americans are foul. I find a lot of them are impatient and lazy, and I do not like that, which is part of the reason I want to get away from here. There are some Americans, like me, for instance, who are actually quite nice. In fact, I strive to be nice to people. Its sort of my philosophy. I enjoy makings others happy.

However, your first sentence: "That is coz you are an idiot." makes you no better than the image you have of us "Foul" Americans.

I dont like nice. Maybe I am wrong, maybe you are different, but not for your niceness. Still, why would you not like to see Japanese in Pearl Harbour?

Anyway, what annoys me is their arrogance and lack of patience, like you say. Too often I see them yelling at people who are just doing their job as if they are to blame. Treating poor people and service people such as waiters like second class citizens in their own country. Majority of them are real cyclops. Extremely rude and disrespectful.

[Nanajuu]

Originally Posted by Tenchu

Anyway, what annoys me is their arrogance and lack of patience, like you say. Too often I see them yelling at people who are just doing their job as if they are to blame. Treating poor people and service people such as waiters like second class citizens in their own country. Majority of them are real cyclops. Extremely rude and disrespectful.

I agree, actually. My grandfather is one of those people. He'll yell at you for anything, and I mean ANYTHING. I once got yelled at, in front of a whole restaurant, for, and I quote, "Eating my burger wrong". In the same day, he yelled at the waiter for bringing his check too early.

I despise that man, and in part, that is why I have become like I am. Being nice to people, even to total strangers - The form of rebellion I have developed. I'd do a lot for a stranger.. I'd give an example, but I don't want to sound arrogant!



The reason for not wanting to see Japanese people in Pearl Harbor... Well, I suppose its something I picked up from my father. I know its wrong - but its just the way I feel.

[ChisaChi]

Eh... personally I think it's a bit judgmental to lump all people from one country together like that. I know I'm not the same as every other Australian, and certainly far from the Australian stereotype. I'm positive not all Americans are idiots XD

From what I've read about traveling to Hiroshima most of the people there, even the survivors who lived through the actual bombing, accept American tourists readily enough. I've just heard it's a bit of a confronting experience to see the memorial museum and the devastating effect it's had, particularly for Americans. It's good to see to realise the extent of damage weapons like that have on real people rather than through statistics and history lessons though, I think.

[Tenchu]

Originally Posted by Nanajuu

I'd do a lot for a stranger..

... Even give a blow job to a stressed out person who just needs to relax?

Originally Posted by Nanajuu

The reason for not wanting to see Japanese people in Pearl Harbor... Well, I suppose its something I picked up from my father. I know its wrong - but its just the way I feel.

There is nothing wrong with what the Japanese did. America was going to invade Japan anyway, just as with Germany, their tactic was simple. Wait until the war is half through, when Germany and Japan were entrenched in fighting and running low on supplies and moral, then a fresh force comes into the battle, of course they are going to win. Its like, take a pro boxer and put him in the ring for 10 rounds with another pro boxer, they will be exhausted, now get and ametuer boxer who is fresh in energy and replace him with one of the pros, even though he lacks in skill as the pro, being fresh, he is still going to smash the fuck out of the pro. US cowardly waited for Germany to slaughter half of its allies, then it went in and smashed them. They were planning the same thing with Japan. Japan knew that they would attack soon, with the massive build up of military ships in the west oceans of America, obviously not their for Germany. Japan had a gun pointed at its face, I dont like people who refuse to recognize this and glorify the US for their cowardly actions in the 40's.

Originally Posted by Nanajuu

Being nice to people,

Being nice does not overcome arrogance, it often makes it worse. Nice people who are being arrogant have even more trouble of understanding what they are doing wrong coz they think they are being nice, so they cant see it. Its like walking down the streets of Tehran and giving away free t-shirts and shorts to all the woman. You might think geez this weather is hot, these people will appreciate this nice gesture... But it is not exactley what they want over there. That is a bad example, but you get the point. Arrogance and being obnoxious is part of American life...

[MMM]

First of all, you are both acting like idiots.

Nanjuu, thousands of Americans visit Hiroshima every year. Of course the effects of the bombing 60+ years ago affects them...but keep in mind that no one under 65 can even remember it. I have met many people from Hiroshima and they are a very peace-loving people. Your presence would be very welcome there...

UNLESS you were to open up your big mouth and say you would be offended if a Japanese person visited Pearl Harbor.

I usually keep my cool here, but that has to be one of the dumbest things I have seen anyone ever say here.

Why in God's name would you be offended by a Japanese going to Pearl Harbor WHEN YOU JUST SAID YOU WANT TO GO TO HIROSHIMA? Are you going to go there to say "Hey, Japan! In your FACE!!!" Do you think a Japanese would say that if they visit Pearl Harbor?

MOST of Japan and the US (and the world) learned lessons from WWII. I am sorry to hear that you and your family didn't.

And Tenchu...don't be a troll.

[Tenchu]

Originally Posted by MMM

"Hey, Japan! In your FACE!!!" Do you think a Japanese would say that if they visit Pearl Harbor?

LOL, that is soooooo funny!

Originally Posted by MMM

And Tenchu...don't be a troll.

Yes Dad... Sorry, wont happen again...

[Nanajuu]

Well, geez.. That was rather harsh. I don't really have anything to say in defense, though, so I guess I'll shut my mouth before I anger someone else. As usual, MMM owns me. Meh.