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Is not "art" something that is meant to create an emotion within the viewer?
It's like the "modern" art, that people pay thousands for, when all it is is basically a child drawing a fish, or someone throwing a paint can on a canvas. Those are considered art, are they not? The art of the Geisha entertains and comforts men, it brings out emotions of happiness and contentment. Therefor, it can be considered an art. Now, YOUR definitions of art may vary, as do mine (I don't consider the modern crap art, personally), but that's my viewpoint on the matter. |
Geisha is definately an art.
The makeup and the outfits are so precisely done, it'd be crazy for it not to be. And the dancing takes a long time to master. |
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the #1 objective of geshia is to entertain men...
that they do this by singing, dancing, etc. is one thing... but it is still for the entertainment of men.... thus would you call stripping art? or prostitution art? could you call a prostitute an artist? also the geshia has NO ROOM for interpretation...its all very fixed... a prostitute or stripper has complete creative control... is it culture..yes but if i hire a geshia (by the hour no less) can i say... "ooo i'm going to see some art?" and if so can i go to a strip club and say the same thing? how different are hostess from geshia? both seek to entertain men without sex... as does a stripper... yet having sex for money...or getting naked for money....does that make you an ARTIST? yes..art is mostly in the eye of the beholder.... and thus art...does not even NEED an artist... i think amuchan you missunderstand what im getting at... i think josh has a fair idea... im trying to EXPLORE where this really stands... you could describe the geshia as a work of art.....but i FEEL that it would be a bit of a stretch to describe geshia as an artist... can you really put a girl who looks pretty and entertains men in the same class as Da Vinci? or Rembrant? or Jimi Hendrix? those are without a shadow of a doubt not just artists...but GREAT artists... could you ever describe any geshia as a Great artist?....seeing as she does not have ANY creative imput on what she does? yes dancing, singing is AN art...but all the geshia is REALLY doing....is doing what she is told...towing the line of conformity.... if i sing in the shower...or dance in a club...does that make me an artist? |
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A hostess does not have to learn to dance or sing, she does not have to know how to play any instruments. She doesn't have to understand the differences between different schools of poetry or calligraphy. And she doesn't have to possess the knowledge to converse with her clients intelligently. All a hostess has to do is to convince her client to get progressively more and more drunk, preferably by buying the most expensive drinks the bar has to offer. There is no set of exact rules for the tea ceremony, or any of the other things which a geisha learns. They are supposed to be adaptable, as nature is. Each has a different style, or a different method, depending on the tastes of her client. |
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In my opinion what makes art is entirely subjective. Art is something that supposed to promote an emotional response towards that subject - sometimes, this is based on your own personal experiances which you don't always share with anybody else. If someone thinks that being a Geisha is a form of art, then to them it is. You can't just decide one day you want to be a Geisha though, it does take training. I think Geisha's are a lot more artistic than some of the modern 'art' that I've seen in galleries.
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In my opinion.....
A geisha is a walking piece of artwork. just like punks and gothics and all types of "groups". It's an expression of who or what they are, tho I don't remember much of what I learned on that pbs special on Geisha's, tho I do know it takes all of their devoted time to be a true geisha. And one thing is for sure. I don't think I could be a Geisha even if I tried. I'm too loud and I don't know how to sit still. :D Yes they may be for male entertainment, but that's the way of the rich man. Now as to comparing her with a prostitute or a stripper or even a hostess. Well.....you can't put them on that catagory. A geisha is a geisha all the time.....even when they have to go shopping. A hostess, a prostitute, a stripper can be themselves once they're done with what-ever shift they take. A geisha is a geisha no matter what.....and from what I hear not every girl can be a geisha. A geisha is the type of art I wouldn't mind showing to my children. A hostess, a prostitute, a stripper anybody can be one....even males. And yet it doesn't take up your time. Unless your forced into it. They may be art, but not the type of art that everyone can enjoy, especially children. |
i think what you said about Goths and Punks being walking works of art is a REALLY good point
i think also that to call a geshia a walking peice of artwork is correct... i did not know that geshia is geshia ALL the time.... that must be quite restricting... SO if the geshia is the walking work of art.... who is the artist? |
in my opinion....
the "woman" underneath the "geisha" facade, is the artist. tho people would probably point to the first geisha who introduced the being of a geisha. |
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