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01-04-2009, 01:36 AM

ive learned
it took a while ur right
but im on kanji now
maybe 'obsessively' wasnt the right word
in fact it wasnt that was my bad..


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01-04-2009, 01:49 AM

im doing kanji too.. same method but ive only put about an hours study into it.. been busy with uni work.. hows that going for you?

what are you learning from? i took MMM's advice and bought Basic Kanji book 1. its REALLY useful!


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im doing kanji too.. same method but ive only put about an hours study into it.. been busy with uni work.. hows that going for you?

what are you learning from? i took MMM's advice and bought Basic Kanji book 1. its REALLY useful!
its going slowly but steadily
i havent been able to find any books with kanji in them(other than a Japanese dictionary) around where i live
so im forced to rely on the internet The set of kanji learned in elementary school(1) im still looking for other websites that may be better though..


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01-04-2009, 01:44 PM

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im doing kanji too.. same method but ive only put about an hours study into it..
SHAD0W, I assume you've heard me spamming Remembering the Kanji, right?

I just started the book from the beginning after a long hiatus about a week or two ago, and I'd say I've solidly learned 300+ kanji in that time. No readings yet, but it's not hard to connect vocabulary words you know with kanji after you've been through Heisig's method.


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01-04-2009, 02:29 PM

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im doing kanji too.. same method but ive only put about an hours study into it.. been busy with uni work.. hows that going for you?

what are you learning from? i took MMM's advice and bought Basic Kanji book 1. its REALLY useful!
I spent about 70€ with Genki I and the workbook. This one costs 22€ and by what I've read it seems really useful. I'm gonna wait until Genki arrives (between 5-9 january) and then I shall buy this one.
Oh, my dear savings.
I have a book called "Easy Kanji", but I don't like it very much.


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01-04-2009, 03:19 PM

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かなをできますか?

How did you learn?
出来る supports が not the direct object.

But I agree with you that learning kanji is useful even tho time consuming. I have just added 10 extra flashcards so I got to 140 kanji learnt now. Many people think learning kanji individually is a waste of time, better learning them when met in phrases or in compound words...but I personally do not agree. Yes when you meet a compound word you will learn those kanji with 1 reading anyway, but thinking that will be enough is, in my opinion, not enough. Like digging out a little pebble of gold out of a mine and call yourself satisfied.
The satisfaction I have when I look up for a word and see the examples and I can read those kanji in the examples or I can look up for a compound kanji by its reading only coz I know the individual kanji is huge.
For example I had always met the verb "eat" and I had always ignored the existence of other readings (such as はむ、くう、くらう). The one you find most is taberu and you live happily with it. The first time I met 朝食 even tho I didn't know what it was (well, guessed it knowing individual kanji), took me like 10 seconds to grab my dictionary and look up for the exact reading.


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01-04-2009, 07:18 PM

What is the difference between:
じ and ぢ?
ず and づ?

Used for zu/ji at different times I suppose?
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01-04-2009, 07:31 PM

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What is the difference between:
じ and ぢ?
ず and づ?

Used for zu/ji at different times I suppose?
in general the first 2 of each is used.

You see ぢ in cases like 鼻血 はなぢ bloody nose.
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01-05-2009, 12:36 AM

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in general the first 2 of each is used.

You see ぢ in cases like 鼻血 はなぢ bloody nose.
I think it should also be noted that づ represents a "dzu" sound which is distinct from the "zu" sound, as in 気づく (kidzuku, to notice).


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01-05-2009, 01:27 PM

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SHAD0W, I assume you've heard me spamming Remembering the Kanji, right?
Sold!

its hard sometimes when your trying to decide where to go next in studies.. i hit "the wall" a while back, but when you wanna be fluent, you gotta go on no matter what!

AJATT is a good resource for learning but getting around that website is like trying to navigate around spaghetti.


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