Have trouble pronoucing らりるれろ,,, please help

[jkami]

Friend told me that らりるれろ are neither R sound nor L sound, how should I pronounce these 5 sounds?

Where should my tongue posit? Do I close my teeth?

Any tutorial video would be helpful thx~

[RadioKid]

Japanese people are hard to find "L" and "R".

Usually, they seems to pronounce らりるれろ as La Li Lu Le Lo.

You can listen to らりるれろ by native Japanese here on Youtube.

YouTube - 改造　スネークの通信「大佐のらりるれろ３」

Don't ask me what they are talking about.

[darksyndrem]

Umm I believe it's an R sound, but native speakers pronounce it (imo) sort of like a T...I would definately wait for others to reply, because I am very unsure myself, but that's my 2 cents

[Starairi]

This was the best explanation I found:

How do you pronounce Japanese r?

[RadioKid]

Because Japanese people does not recognize L and R, らりるれろ can be preonounced somewhere between L and R.

Though I don't know how Japanese pronounciation is tought in the Japanese classes, the teacher should decide either of L or R.

When Japanese people learn English, pronounciation of R is emphasized to use the tongue. This is the reason why I believe らりるれろ is LaLiLuLeLo.

[KyleGoetz]

My Japanese class didn't teach how to make the sound; we were expected to hear it and eventually mimic it. Very few were able to actually do that.

I'm a fan of using linguistics to explain things, and I also like using analogies to what we have in our native languages (English for me).

For linguistics-minded people, Japanese phonology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia They are all basically alveolar flaps, which means you flap your tongue against your alveolar ridge, which is the roof of your mouth where it is bumpy about 1cm behind the teeth, right before your mouth opens up into a wider cavern.

In English, the only alveolar flap I can think of offhand that we have is the "tt" in words like "better" and "butter."

らりるれろ is a little different, but it's close enough. It's definitely the closest you'll get when explaining purely with characters on a screen.

Personally, I've just always thought of it as a blend of "d" and "l."

[8werner8]

I remember when I asked that question.

"Sensei, is it ra[something] or la[something]?"

And all I got for an answer was a blank stare. Is it A or is it A? Japanese people don't really hear any difference between our r and l. They just kinda know that we get it wrong

You might want to click the link in my signature for all the r-l audio you will ever need.

[SHAD0W]

i pronounce it RLA RI RLU RLE RO

り and ろ sound stronger to me than the rest so they just get an R sound rather than a mix of the above.

[RadioKid]

I can clearly pronounce R and L in different way when I could remember the spelling correctly.

However, it does not mean I can distinguish R and L in listening.

One day in London, I had heard the tube announce saying "Next station is Edgware Road" and understand what R shoulde be pronounced (and forgot it).

[Troo]

Originally Posted by KyleGoetz

For linguistics-minded people, Japanese phonology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia They are all basically alveolar flaps, which means you flap your tongue against your alveolar ridge, which is the roof of your mouth where it is bumpy about 1cm behind the teeth, right before your mouth opens up into a wider cavern.

In English, the only alveolar flap I can think of offhand that we have is the "tt" in words like "better" and "butter."

I would imagine everyone finds a way that works best for them, but this is pretty close to the way I do it, except that my tongue does not touch my alveolar ridge when saying ら, り, る, れ or ろ.

Consider it like squeezing the end of a hosepipe: The water is suddenly pushed out at higher pressure because you're restricted the passageway. ら, り, る, れ and ろ are like this - constricting the airflow with your tongue pushes your breath out faster, and the "flap" will come naturally.

The best thing you can do is listen to examples and practice, over and over again, until it comes naturally to you.