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Question particle used with 如し - 12-09-2010, 06:15 PM

Hello, I am a newbie in this forum. よろしくお願いします。
I read two ことわざ and both happens to use the word ごとし

1.光陰は矢のごとし
2.過ぎたるはなお及ばざるがごとし

I learned that the particles put before ごとし is の and が.
I hope that anybody can explain the difference to me.
Thanks a lot.

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Hello, I am a newbie in this forum. よろしくお願いします。
I read two ことわざ and both happens to use the word ごとし

1.光陰は矢のごとし
2.過ぎたるはなお及ばざるがごとし

I learned that the particles put before ごとし is の and が.
I hope that anybody can explain the difference to me.
Thanks a lot.
The が used in literary writing, proverbs included, has exactly the same meaning as の.

矢がごとし = 矢のごとし = like an arrow

我が妻 = 我の妻 = my wife
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12-10-2010, 06:32 AM

Thanks a lot, Masaegu-san.
I have other questions.
Is 如し also used in everyday conversation? I wonder if you can show me examples of other sentences using 如し.
Also, what is the actual meaning of the second ことわざ ?

過ぎたるはなお及ばざるがごとし

I read several sites explained different meanings of it.
Thank you very much.

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Thanks a lot, Masaegu-san.
I have other questions.
Is 如し also used in everyday conversation? I wonder if you can show me examples of other sentences using 如し.
Also, what is the actual meaning of the second ことわざ ?

過ぎたるはなお及ばざるがごとし

I read several sites explained different meanings of it.
如し is not a word we use on a daily basis. When people use it, it's often in quoting these proverbs.

When we actually use it as a word, it's usually in the form 如く. It's most often used in somewhat dramatic speech by adult speakersn and is seldom used by teenagers.

e.g.
あの時の高橋さんは聖母マリアのごとく見えた。
スミスさんは風のごとく走っていった。
君の瞳は星のごとく輝いている。
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The meaning of 「過ぎたるはなお及ばざるがごとし」 is "Doing something in excess is as ineffective as not doing enough of it." Ignore any sites that tell you otherwise.
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わかりました。
Masaegu-san, どうもありがとうございます。

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