[Help] "And" in 日本語

[calv930]

I would like to know how to say the word "and" in Japanese.
From what I think/know it's toと　and soshiteそして

I am not sure as to how to use them and if there are other "and"s.
I would like to know how to use "and" in Japanese and if there are any other "and" or if I was wrong.

Thank you...

[yuriyuri]

It depends on how you want to use it.

と links nouns together as a list.
In addition to this there is also とか、や、だの etc. which give a slightly different meaning.

そして just carries on from a previous sentence.
You could say in addition to this there are things like それに、それから etc.

There is the "て form"
言う　→　言って

There is the たり form (I think this could be translated as "and" in a way)
言う　→　言ったり

There are loads more but that is all I can think of, off the top of my head.

Since there is too much to explain in one post, I think you will get the best answers by trying to produce your own sentence, telling us what you are trying to say, and then letting people tell you how to use it in that case.

[KyleGoetz]

Originally Posted by calv930

I would like to know how to say the word "and" in Japanese.
From what I think/know it's toと　and soshiteそして

I am not sure as to how to use them and if there are other "and"s.
I would like to know how to use "and" in Japanese and if there are any other "and" or if I was wrong.

Thank you...

As yuriyuri said, there are multiple ways depending on what you want to say. A native has, on here, stated that Japanese do not use そして as frequently as non-natives do, too.

[calv930]

Originally Posted by yuriyuri

It depends on how you want to use it.

と links nouns together as a list.
In addition to this there is also とか、や、だの etc. which give a slightly different meaning.

そして just carries on from a previous sentence.
You could say in addition to this there are things like それに、それから etc.

There is the "て form"
言う　→　言って

There is the たり form (I think this could be translated as "and" in a way)
言う　→　言ったり

There are loads more but that is all I can think of, off the top of my head.

Since there is too much to explain in one post, I think you will get the best answers by trying to produce your own sentence, telling us what you are trying to say, and then letting people tell you how to use it in that case.

Isn't itte 言って "say?" For example; 何言ってんの？　（What are you saying?/What did you say?)
And thank you for the some explanation. I think i understand it a little bit clearer.

[SceptileMaster]

Originally Posted by KyleGoetz

As yuriyuri said, there are multiple ways depending on what you want to say. A native has, on here, stated that Japanese do not use そして as frequently as non-natives do, too.

My Japanese teacher is a native said that そして is not uncommon when I commented on this. She also tried to explain the difference between そして and それから but I didn't quite understand (her English is okay but not great).

[KyleGoetz]

Originally Posted by SceptileMaster

My Japanese teacher is a native said that そして is not uncommon when I commented on this. She also tried to explain the difference between そして and それから but I didn't quite understand (her English is okay but not great).

There is a large gulf between "native English speakers overuse it" and "it is not uncommon for native Japanese speakers to use it."

[KyleGoetz]

Originally Posted by calv930

Isn't itte 言って "say?" For example; 何言ってんの？　（What are you saying?/What did you say?)
And thank you for the some explanation. I think i understand it a little bit clearer.

If you don't know what "and" is in Japanese, I'd say it's above your pay grade right now to know grammar that is contained within the phrase なに言ってんの.

言う is "to say." 言ってん is short for 言っている, which means "to be saying."

言って is the て-form. Have you not learned this yet? Where are you in your Japanese studies, so I can address your questions in a way you would understand.

[yuriyuri]

Originally Posted by calv930

Isn't itte 言って "say?" For example; 何言ってんの？　（What are you saying?/What did you say?)

I think dropping some links to the relevant pages on Tae Kim would be of use to you:
Noun-related Particles | Tae Kim's Guide to Learning Japanese
Compound Sentences | Tae Kim's Guide to Learning Japanese
Other uses of the te-form | Tae Kim's Guide to Learning Japanese

[calv930]

Originally Posted by KyleGoetz

If you don't know what "and" is in Japanese, I'd say it's above your pay grade right now to know grammar that is contained within the phrase なに言ってんの.

言う is "to say." 言ってん is short for 言っている, which means "to be saying."

言って is the て-form. Have you not learned this yet? Where are you in your Japanese studies, so I can address your questions in a way you would understand.

All my Japanese were self-taught...
I don't have a Japanese class, I wish I did.

Sorry...

[KyleGoetz]

Originally Posted by calv930

All my Japanese were self-taught...
I don't have a Japanese class, I wish I did.

Sorry...

That doesn't answer my question. Are you just grabbing random things and learning bits and pieces? You'll never get anywhere with that.

You need a structured course. Even a self-taught course. Just google "Tae kim japanese" and work through that.

When I was in junior high, I bought a grammar book and started working my way through that and the first and second grade kanji.