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jkami 02-02-2010 04:40 AM

When to use ぬ form?
 
I just read something like 食わぬばならぬ
And i figured it is an alternate form of 食わなければならない

When to use ぬ form?

Sashimister 02-02-2010 04:59 AM

Do you have to create a new thread everytime you have a little question?

KyleGoetz 02-02-2010 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkami (Post 798013)
I just read something like 食わぬばならぬ
And i figured it is an alternate form of 食わなければならない

When to use ぬ form?

ぬ is just another way of ない
From Japanese: A Comprehensive Grammar:
Quote:

111.1.2.1 -nu
-nu is a written-style variant of -nai (but note that some idiomatic expressions such as [omowanu N] 'unexpected' cannot be changed into omowanai N).
a. 眠れぬ夜が続いている。
Nights when one can't sleep [because of the heat] continue.

b. 秋の訪れは存外はやいかもしれぬ。
The coming of autumn can be surprisingly sudden.

KyleGoetz 02-02-2010 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sashimister (Post 798016)
Do you have to create a new thread everytime you have a little question?

To be fair, the "Japanese Questions/Translations" thread always seemed to me a bit weird because, at least in theory, every question on this subforum ought to be a a Japanese question or request for translation.

Sashimister 02-02-2010 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KyleGoetz (Post 798018)
To be fair, the "Japanese Questions/Translations" thread always seemed to me a bit weird because, at least in theory, every question on this subforum ought to be a a Japanese question or request for translation.

Good point. OP could ask all his questions in one thread was what I was talking about.
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BTW, we don't ever say 食わぬばならぬ. We say 食わねばならぬ.

KyleGoetz 02-02-2010 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sashimister (Post 798022)
Good point. OP could ask all his questions in one thread was what I was talking about.

Ah, gotcha.

jkami 02-02-2010 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KyleGoetz (Post 798017)
ぬ is just another way of ない
From Japanese: A Comprehensive Grammar:

Thanks you for the help~

jkami 02-02-2010 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sashimister (Post 798016)
Do you have to create a new thread everytime you have a little question?

I thought creating new thread would be easier for people to see my question, sorry if it caused trouble///

KyleGoetz 02-02-2010 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkami (Post 798135)
I thought creating new thread would be easier for people to see my question, sorry if it caused trouble///

I'm sort of in your camp on this one. Provided your titles are useful (like having a title "ぬ vs ない"), it's better for everyone, I think, to have individual posts.

I mean, if I wanted to know the difference, I think it would be easier to see such a post and read it rather than just every day scrolling through the 10 or so new posts in "Japanese Help Questions/Translations" wondering if something I'm interested in will pop up.

I think it wouldn't be a problem unless you forced other new threads off the front page every couple days.

jkami 02-18-2010 06:19 AM

Who is masaegu??? He/she sent me the following messenge


masaegu (Offline)
JF Old Timer Posts: 492
Join Date: Jun 2007

Important notice. - 01-27-2010, 05:27 AM

Don't create a new thread everytime you have a little question!

Use the big Q&A thread or ask all your questions in one thread.


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