Mnemonic for almost similar hira or kata kana

[jurianbai]

Ok some of hiras and katas looks similar, any recommended mnemonic to remember these??

われね - wa re ne
め ぬ - me nu
シ ツ - shi tsu

[KyleGoetz]

Originally Posted by jurianbai

Ok some of hiras and katas looks similar, any recommended mnemonic to remember these??

われね - wa re ne
め ぬ - me nu
シ ツ - shi tsu

The "n"s have a loop. Other than that, unless you know how to make a mnemonic out of visual data, I can't think of how you'd do a mnemonic.

[burkhartdesu]

Originally Posted by jurianbai

Ok some of hiras and katas looks similar, any recommended mnemonic to remember these??

われね - wa re ne
め ぬ - me nu
シ ツ - shi tsu

め -- because "me" means "eye", and the shape looks similar to an eye.

ぬ -- looks like chopsticks and "nu-ddles"

シ -- "Shi is smiling"

ね -- looks like a net.... so you "ne-t a big fish"

ツ -- looks like a snake and two rocks... "Becareful, i-tsu snake!!"

... these were actual mnemonics from my Japanese 1 class.

[jurianbai]

great, that help me nowww.

ne looks like fishing and yess Ne- a fish..

before this I keep chanting Wa-re-ne and me-nu in order to distinguish the characters.

[JayT]

You forgot:

ソ,　ン

So, n/m.

[jurianbai]

Originally Posted by JayT

You forgot:

ソ,　ン

So, n/m.

Luckily I am no problem with this two. maybe because the ン is learnt separately from the list of syllabary (x+a, x+i, x+u etc.)

but thanks.

[KyleGoetz]

Originally Posted by burkhartdesu

め -- because "me" means "eye", and the shape looks similar to an eye.

ぬ -- looks like chopsticks and "nu-ddles"

シ -- "Shi is smiling"

ね -- looks like a net.... so you "ne-t a big fish"

ツ -- looks like a snake and two rocks... "Becareful, i-tsu snake!!"

... these were actual mnemonics from my Japanese 1 class.

No offense, but those seem objectively terrible. "She is smiling" doesn't actually differentiate between シ and ツ, nor does the snake/two rocks differentiate them. However, your ぬ one is pretty funny.

If they worked for you, good job, man. I just sat down and learned them the regular way.

I will say, it helped a lot to have ツ in my name when I was first learning Japanese. It was a very easy way to remember which was which.

[Nagoyankee]

No offense, but if people need mnemonics to remember the kana, I have to wonder what they will do when they get into kanji.

[Nyororin]

Originally Posted by Nagoyankee

No offense, but if people need mnemonics to remember the kana, I have to wonder what they will do when they get into kanji.

Actually, it`s surprisingly hard at first for a lot of people to remember them. I remember it took a bit of concentration to remember which was ち and which was さ back when I first started learning... (I ended up remembering by keeping in mind that the one where the bottom LOOKED like a c was NOT the one that made the Chi sound)
シ and ツ never gave me any trouble at all, but for some reason ソ and ン did - so I just tried to remember ソツ, as they both pointed in the same direction when you write them.

And, well, I never had any particular trouble with kanji.

My son, raised in Japan, totally Japanese language, etc - can`t tell the difference between them yet either and he just guesses most of the time (unless it`s a word that he knows it has to be one of the other.)
I think that people tend to forget what was difficult at first once they get to a certain level. My husband STILL screws up d and b if he is writing and not thinking, so I really don`t think it`s all that odd to have trouble at some point.

Flip through a VOW and you`ll find tons of examples where native Japanese screwed up when writing them too.

[jurianbai]

Originally Posted by KyleGoetz

No offense, but those seem objectively terrible. "She is smiling" doesn't actually differentiate between シ and ツ, nor does the snake/two rocks differentiate them. However, your ぬ one is pretty funny.

For now I will remember Shi is smilling as シ because the SMILLEE is nicer... for two character I only need to remember one.

for ね=Ne , now I can remember as people Ne-t a fish. (the loop looks like a fish)

in fact I remembered all now just by remembering this post.

I found it hard to learn hira and kata because you need to spell it out. the kanji is much different because it did not represent the way it spell. Except yes, some looks similar character need some Mnemonic method. For example in mandarin:

買 = mǎi (to buy ) and 賣= mài (to sell) gives me some trouble. my mnemonic is if you sell you selling it more expensive than buying, that is the extra 土 in 賣.