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12-14-2008, 07:39 AM

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Keep telling yourself that. Let me tell you from a guy's point of view... as an [underage] gravure model, no man will buy your magazines because they "care about you". You may mistake "caring" for "creepy stalker", but it's not the same. They'll get off and forget your name.

Sorry if I'm being extreme, but you're what, like 15?
No I'm 17
yes I know that there are creepos out there who will buy my dvds or photobooks because they want to get off
but there are some people who will buy my stuff because they really admire me I know their will be people like that
and those are the people who will be truly important to me
and thats another reason I wanbt to do this type of modeling
it makes me sad that this dream wont actually happen


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12-14-2008, 07:40 AM

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She is 17, and that is not true. They won't forget her name.

What difference does underage have to do with how they will view the magazine?

I think 99.9999% will jerk off and care at the same time.
Jerk off and care, haha.

Ten, I'm getting the feeling you're one of the guys that buys Saaya Iirie DVDs and makes an afternoon of it. It's just the way you're talking. If I'm wrong, sorry. If I'm right, I'd appreciate you not encouraging another naive teen into this kind of business.


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Sweety, they will probably really admire you, yes. But men have a tendancy to jerk off over the ones they really admire if they don't have a girlfriends themself...
Honestly I really don't mind that just aslong as they are fans I mean if they werent fans of these girls...
why would they waste their time even buying the photobooks/dvds if they didnt like this girl?you could wacth the stuff for free online
I have seen some of these guys and even though they are creepy they seem very dedicated to these idols
and I just want ppl to feel the same about me
once even saaya irie said she thought her fans were creepy but then she said
she is glad they admire her
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my favorite idol is yuko ogura
YouTube - Yuko Ogura - Third Week
shes the reason i want to get into gravure modeling
2 cute


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12-14-2008, 07:55 AM

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Told you, anyway, I grew out of chasing pics on the net.
And grew into what, exactly?

If someone wants to be a super-softcore porn model, I won't fight them. The fact is, for many men, the younger the better - I've got a serious problem with that, and with the agencies that convince 11 year old girls that "it's okay, it's only a swimsuit" or "sure, they'll admire and care about you."

Courtly love was chivalric - please don't taint its image by comparing it to pedophilia.

And comparing gravure idols, "junior" or otherwise, to geisha is insulting to geisha.


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my favorite idol is yuko ogura
YouTube - Yuko Ogura - Third Week
shes the reason i want to get into gravure modeling
2 cute
The faces, the music, the stuffed animals... that was awful creepy. Please do well in nursing school


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The faces, the music, the stuffed animals... that was awful creepy. Please do well in nursing school
It was cute!XD
She sings and acts too
but uhhh I really don't want to be a nurse I want to be a gravure model
the only reason im doing the nursing thing is to plz my mom
and since my mom tried to get me into modeling before and I freaked out
she prob won't listen to me if I try to get her to do this for me again lol


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Boinky, I like Yuko too.
she sung the outro for school rumble


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As for a black girl making it in Japan... I am not so sure... good luck. (they associate dark skin with poverty in SE Asia. That is slowly dieing out, but still common expectation)...
That's SE Asia, but not Japan. They associate dark skin with surfer gals in Japan.
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12-14-2008, 08:30 AM

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You arn't the open minded or deepest man ever...

The Japanese men interested in this gravure will never act upon their desire. It is only a fairy tale. Knights would pledge their hearts to women they could never get; stories like Rupunzel (spelling?) came from this concept.

If you seriously have an interest in understanding the concept of what is going on then read this article ALL OF IT:

American Wota Version 1.0

You can pay it off as what you want, but when push comes to shove it brings up a relevant point.

There's something very wrong with the guy who wrote this.

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So why focus on the younger idols? Because the rather distinct sense of ephemerality that the U15 symbolizes - no longer a girl, not yet a woman - is itself a source of profound feelings. The teen idol is herself in a state of flux, changing before our eyes in many cases, and there is something undeniably profound paying witness to the hormonal equivalent of the constantly flickering flames of the burning bush.
If you can't understand the inherent wrongness in that, there's a huge problem. There's a difference between the loving feeling of watching your daughter grow, and the feeling you get for some girl who hasn't finished puberty.

There's a difference between romantic pining for a woman you'll never have, and obsession with a pre-teen for whom you'd go to jail if you had her.

Apparently, there are some "men" who feel the need to write huge articles justifying their lust for underage girls.


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