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Originally Posted by Sangetsu
It's already illegal to hire illegal aliens, and employers already face fines for doing so. Unfortunately, the federal government has done nothing to provide a system to verify information like social security numbers and such, and illegal aliens have no problems getting fake documents. When running a Lexis Nexis check on my brother a few years ago, I was surprised to see that his social security number had been used by 18 other people. I checked myself and found that a person in Chicago had used my social security number to get a job there.
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It might be a hint to employers when they pay people well below minimum wage and house them in sub-human conditions and don't get any complaints from their employees that they MIGHT be illegal.
Get real. Let's not pretend that the employers of millions of undocumented workers in the US are doing their damnedest to only hire legal workers.
Just because the law is not well enforced (hmm...wonder why) doesn't mean it is OK to break it...or does it?
Again, take away the lollipop and the ants disappear. It's a lot easier and cheaper than trying to clear away the ants...especially knowing that get rid of this nest and there is another nest waiting to get to that lollipop. An unlimited supply.
Now the law enforcement agencies of Arizona want the federal gov't to pay for the training of their 15,000 officers. So they want to use my tax dollars to pay for this awful law? I don't think so. And why is Arizona passing laws it can't pay for?
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Originally Posted by Sangetsu
Latinos are not "people of color". I used to be a police officer, and Hispanics on our forms were considered "white/Hispanic".
Police can detain anyone, citizen or not, whether they be white, black, brown, or green for not carrying valid identification. If I pull you over two blocks from your home for speeding, and if you aren't carrying any ID, I can charge you for not carrying a valid ID and detain you until your identification is verified. This rarely happens, as it usually takes only a moment to verify someone's ID over the radio or computer.
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Ask Latinos if they are people of color. Invariably the answer will be "Yes".
I agree police can detain anyone. That's the problem with THIS law, as it isn't about anyone, but anyone with a REASONABLE SUSPICION of being an illegal immigrant. Have an accent? Migrant farm worker? Have brown skin? Ride in the back of a pickup? REASONABLE SUSPICION by LAWFUL CONTACT. Like you said, a cop can pull anyone over.