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Moot 07-30-2010 10:20 AM

One Manga is closing down
 
I think tomorrow is the last day of onemanga so RIP to the best manga site (well for me) on the net. Ive been using it since 2006-7ish and Ill definitely miss it.

been a forum member since 08 too

RobinMask 07-30-2010 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Moot (Post 822029)
I think tomorrow is the last day of onemanga so RIP to the best manga site (well for me) on the net. Ive been using it since 2006-7ish and Ill definitely miss it.

been a forum member since 08 too

It is a sad thing that the site's closing down, it was an excellent site. I don't really understand why it's closing down though to be honest, I mean since onemanga and mangafox have taken down their manga dozens of other links have popped up with 'ah, but you can go here instead and still read it!' . . . if people can still easily find it online then it seems silly to try and stop them from reading it, and not particulary fair to make one or two sites close but not any of the others :confused:

Moot 07-30-2010 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RobinMask (Post 822031)
It is a sad thing that the site's closing down, it was an excellent site. I don't really understand why it's closing down though to be honest, I mean since onemanga and mangafox have taken down their manga dozens of other links have popped up with 'ah, but you can go here instead and still read it!' . . . if people can still easily find it online then it seems silly to try and stop them from reading it, and not particulary fair to make one or two sites close but not any of the others :confused:

well recently the big shots of Japanese manga had started taking the whole unliscenced online manga industry seriously and has taken some action by taking OM, a bigshot down. I wouldn't be surprised if others follow

nobora 07-30-2010 04:58 PM

It does suck that its closing down. Thats how I read alot of manga nd how i got into some anime. But manga-kas arnt getting any profit from that so I guess its for the best.

animerox102 07-30-2010 06:01 PM

Well actually the only part of One Manga that is really getting shut down is the manga part, but they will still have up the forums and everything.

MMM 07-30-2010 06:15 PM

One Manga is being shut down because it was an illegal operation. I am happy the manga publishers have gotten together to work as a unified force to start shutting these illegal operations down.

Keep in mind, on JF posting links to these sites (One Manga is now down) is against the rules.

conflitz 07-31-2010 12:51 AM

What a shame. Twas a great site, but there are still plenty others, and I'm sure there will always be ways to read manga online.

MMM 07-31-2010 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by conflitz (Post 822089)
What a shame. Twas a great site, but there are still plenty others, and I'm sure there will always be ways to read manga online.

God, I sure hope not, unless it is done officially by the license holding publishers and not by online criminals who steal from the poor and give to the greedy.

Koir 07-31-2010 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 822104)
God, I sure hope not, unless it is done officially by the license holding publishers and not by online criminals who steal from the poor and give to the greedy.

Aren't we straying from the post topic a bit here?

How about continuing here?

MMM 07-31-2010 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Koir (Post 822106)
Aren't we straying from the post topic a bit here?

My post couldn't have been any more ON TOPIC.

Koir 07-31-2010 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 822107)
My post couldn't have been any more ON TOPIC.

It had little to do with this "Onemanga" place closing down and more to do with a general QQ about piracy. I edited my response with a link to a different thread.

MMM 07-31-2010 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Koir (Post 822108)
It had little to do with this "Onemanga" place closing down and more to do with a general QQ about piracy. I edited my response with a link to a different thread.

Japan Forum's rules show that online piracy is not endorsed here.

Lamenting the loss of an illegal piracy site is going to get a reaction. I am sure many users here don't even realize what One Mange and these other sites are doing is illegal. I am just ensuring that JF users know that JF does not endorse the activities of pirates, and that what they are doing is, indeed, illegal.

Koir 07-31-2010 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 822111)
Japan Forum's rules show that online piracy is not endorsed here.

Lamenting the loss of an illegal piracy site is going to get a reaction. I am sure many users here don't even realize what One Mange and these other sites are doing is illegal. I am just ensuring that JF users know that JF does not endorse the activities of pirates, and that what they are doing is, indeed, illegal.

As long as we're speaking in generalities....

I don't get online manga sites as a concept. I'd much rather read the manga I own in places away from the computer screen. More mobile and easier on the eyes :)

MMM 07-31-2010 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Koir (Post 822112)
As long as we're speaking in generalities....

I am not sure what you mean.

manganimefan227 07-31-2010 03:03 AM

As in "In general" terms, you were talking about general downloading of manga being illeagel, he's giving a "general" opinion, I think.

MMM 07-31-2010 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by manganimefan227 (Post 822118)
As in "In general" terms, you were talking about general downloading of manga being illeagel, he's giving a "general" opinion, I think.

Thanks, but I would rather let Koir explain what he meant.

Koir 07-31-2010 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 822113)
I am not sure what you mean.

Was making reference to turning this thread into a discussion that's also in a different thread specifically branched off (by you) to discuss anime/manga piracy with a more general tone not tied to any specific site.

MMM 07-31-2010 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Koir (Post 822121)
Was making reference to turning this thread into a discussion that's also in a different thread specifically branched off (by you) to discuss anime/manga piracy with a more general tone not tied to any specific site.

The One Mange shut down is a victory for true fans of manga and their artists and creators. I hope all other illegal piracy sites meet the same fate.

willgoestocollege 07-31-2010 03:38 AM

Would you steal a car?

Aniki 07-31-2010 11:10 AM

I didn't know what Onemanga was before this commotion, so I don't really give a toss on their fate. All I can say is, people will still post manga scans as long as there those who want to read it, they'll just need to spend a little more time now searching for it.

Moot 07-31-2010 11:58 AM

Well I can understand what you guys are saying but for those like me, who lived in Japan for 9 several years and had to move to another country with no other way to read manga but this, it's a negative

Realism 07-31-2010 12:06 PM

Read the raws....then you'll improve your Japanese by bounds.

Moot 07-31-2010 12:33 PM

I am Japanese, where can I read raws? (sorry if this is going offtopic)

I have around 150+ manga's in Japanese but ive read them all like 100 times each so kinda boring

willgoestocollege 07-31-2010 01:02 PM

Just buy them off Amazon JP or AU.

Columbine 07-31-2010 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by willgoestocollege (Post 822153)
Just buy them off Amazon JP or AU.

I thought you needed a JP address to buy from Amazon JP?

willgoestocollege 07-31-2010 01:16 PM

I don't know whether or not they ship international.

Nyororin 07-31-2010 06:00 PM

I agree with everything MMM has said - none of which was off topic.
The site was shut down because it is illegal. We do not support illegal activities here on JF.
I wasn`t familiar with the site, had never heard of it before this post, but have to say that it sounds like a pretty good thing that it`s being shut down. It`s illegal. It`s piracy.

MMM 07-31-2010 07:26 PM

It was also one of Google's top 1000 visited sites on the Internet. It being taken down is a major victory for people going after pirates. The scanlators who had their scans posted there are nervous about just "going to the next site" as chances are that will eventually be taken down.

And I want to give the warning again:

Do not post links to any scan hosting sites here.

It doesn't matter if they are translated or RAWS.

Moot, if you are Japanese and live in Australia, you must have friends and family in Japan who can send you books.

JasonTakeshi 07-31-2010 07:50 PM

Seems like MMM is happy.

Do you have any relatives/friends working for the manga/comics industry?

MMM 07-31-2010 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JasonTakeshi (Post 822174)
Seems like MMM is happy.

Do you have any relatives/friends working for the manga/comics industry?

Are you asking me? It's no secret that I do.

Columbine 07-31-2010 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by willgoestocollege (Post 822156)
I don't know whether or not they ship international.

Looks like they do now! Finally :) I want some cook books!
Back on topic; if Amazon.jp sells international, there's really no excuse; you can buy raws direct from Japan and regardless a LOT of the most popular manga is translated and for sale legally on Amazon, so virtually no need for scanlation either.

willgoestocollege 07-31-2010 09:39 PM

I might as well pre order Pokemon Black or White and get in September.

StonerPenguin 08-01-2010 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 822175)
Are you asking me? It's no secret that I do.

Really? Who?

Nyororin 08-01-2010 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by StonerPenguin (Post 822204)
Really? Who?

MMM does.

That`s what the "I do" bit meant - that he does work in the industry himself.

yuriyuri 08-01-2010 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Columbine (Post 822179)
Looks like they do now! Finally :) I want some cook books!
Back on topic; if Amazon.jp sells international, there's really no excuse; you can buy raws direct from Japan and regardless a LOT of the most popular manga is translated and for sale legally on Amazon, so virtually no need for scanlation either.

Just for the sake of providing another site you can buy from (In case you didn't know it), it could be worth looking here too:
オンライン書店ビーケーワン

I can't remember the shipping costs compared to Amazon but if I remember correctly it was cheaper.
Although that may depend on country.
...Come to think of it I think I may have used 船便, which is obviously going to be really cheap, but takes between 1 - 3 months to get to you.

I suppose it all depends on how patient you are.

Well, here is the 海外へのお届け section of the FAQ:
オンライン書店ビーケーワン: ガイド&ヘルプ>ご利用ガイド

So even if Amazon didn't ship internationally, there are still plenty of other sources to get manga, magazines and books of any other kind :)

MMM 08-01-2010 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 822211)
MMM does.

That`s what the "I do" bit meant - that he does work in the industry himself.

My answer could have been read two ways.

It is no secret that I have contracted translations for manga publishers and anime distributors. I do not work full time for the anime and manga industry, but I do have friends who do.

However, I don't want any connection with the industry to make my factual assertions about piracy to be construed as any less valid. If anything that makes them more valid, as I know people who have lost jobs due to (in part) of the prevalence of piracy. I am not asking for sympathy of them, but understanding that scanlation sites are stealing and illegal. One Manga was one of the biggest (if not the biggest), and its destruction is hopefully one of many. There was a sense there that due to sheer numbers what they were doing was "OK". I know many users here have fallen under that misguided spell.

Understand that what they did was not OK. It was stopped because it is illegal, damaging and, in the end, taught poor values about the value of manga.

SSJup81 08-01-2010 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 822175)
Are you asking me? It's no secret that I do.

It was to me.:p
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Originally Posted by Columbine (Post 822179)
Looks like they do now! Finally :) I want some cook books!
Back on topic; if Amazon.jp sells international, there's really no excuse; you can buy raws direct from Japan and regardless a LOT of the most popular manga is translated and for sale legally on Amazon, so virtually no need for scanlation either.

I never knew that Amazon.jp sold manga. I usually only bought music through it. Never thought to look for manga. Doesn't matter much for me, though. It's the more unpopular series I'd want translated and sold that's grasped my interest. Before leaving, even though the series is an old one, I never saw Q.E.D. stateside and I'm still waiting for Gokusen to get a license (it's already ended).
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Originally Posted by willgoestocollege (Post 822185)
I might as well pre order Pokemon Black or White and get in September.

Japanese-language version or the English-language version? I want the game too, but I still haven't made up my mind about whether or not I want to get it or which version I should get if I do decide to. I'm leaning towards getting Black, though, but then I keep hearing that White is supposed to be the better game.

xlrhyme 08-01-2010 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 822104)
God, I sure hope not, unless it is done officially by the license holding publishers and not by online criminals who steal from the poor and give to the greedy.

You're being a spoil sport.

SSJup81 08-01-2010 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 822104)
God, I sure hope not, unless it is done officially by the license holding publishers and not by online criminals who steal from the poor and give to the greedy.

Interesting way of putting it, but seems that those who do the scanlations don't do it for profit, so they're not really getting much out of it either.

Nyororin 08-01-2010 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SSJup81 (Post 822238)
Interesting way of putting it, but seems that those who do the scanlations don't do it for profit, so they're not really getting much out of it either.

No one said they were getting a profit.
They are simply reducing the profits of the poor manga artists (it`s NOT a glamorous or high paid job, trust me)... And just handing over their work for free to people who are too selfish to spend their own money on their hobby.

It`s not like manga is a life staple. It`s not as if people would die without it. All they are doing is handing it to the people who are too greedy and too selfish to actually support the very things they enjoy.


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