Originally Posted by ivi0nk3y (Post 507318)

Huh? Even IF that was what I meant, how are you supposed to know a single American didn't vote just to appease the rest of the world, indirectly at least.
That is, how do you know a single American who votes for Obama isn't effected by the negative press they get throughout the world and thus votes for Obama, to appease that negative press.
Not even the great MMM can make a statement so generic and expect it to hold water.

Now that isn't even what I was trying to say but I was replying to what YOU said about Obama being black and it being viewed as a progressive attitude toward racism. I merely stated that Obama needed to show more backbone to be voted in and not rely on his colour and that is what he has been doing.

As for this bullshit about Obama being Muslim and the fact that his father wasn't practicing etc etc.. that just goes to show the lame brain power of a lot of people who are even bringing this up. I can't believe people are so ignorant to assume that there is a war going on against Islam and Muslims. I mean, this has been the accusation of many Muslims against the West and it has been denied by the West all the time. Instead, organisations such as Al-Qaeda have been made the subject of the "war on terror".
So why would you even be stupid enough to say that you are actually having a war against Muslims? Do you realise what that would mean for your country?
Even if Obama WAS Muslim, what has that got to do with you?
The guys an idiot anyway, saying his father wasn't "religious". He just spun his story around to cater for the American audience. I'm sure if he was running for President in a majority Muslim country, saying anything like that would be the very last thing on his mind and his story would be different.
Also his stance on Jerusalem is no surprise. I'm sure whatever president that America gets, there will always be arms dealings with Israel under the table as there always have been. :)
However, I would still vote for Obama since he is still the lesser of two evils though his weak character goes a long way to change my mind.

Originally Posted by koaku (Post 507345)

EVERYBODY deal with Israel for arms...you seems to be an anti-politics..(sorry if im wrong) because there is no more political personality in the world which is really implemented and showed a real change.

Originally Posted by koaku (Post 507345)

And for Obama even if his dad was a muslim ..he grow up and made his schooling in a Catholic School in Indonesia.

My mum is muslim, my dad (born catholic) converted when i was a kid(they divorced for a long time now) so i can say that i was born in a Muslim family...Am I Catholic?no...Am I Muslim?no..does it really change anything?I dont think so..

Originally Posted by MMM (Post 506955)

What Muslim ties? Obama isn't Muslim

Originally Posted by RegPaq (Post 507235)

so does it hurt, or..

Originally Posted by XrachelleX (Post 507430)

i am fully aware of that. i was just trying to explain the consequences that could put our country at such a serious risk for another prolonged war. and another reason why i wouldnt vote for Obama is becuase his pastor is saying wrong things about the Bible. [please excuse my thoughts] but it seems weirds that Obama calls himself a Christian when both of pastors are saying disrespectful things about the Bible.

Originally Posted by koaku (Post 507391)

And ivi0nk3y did you ever heard about Mordechaï Vanunu?

Originally Posted by ivi0nk3y (Post 507443)

Sorry but it isn't hard to pick out something wrong with the Bible. What you call disrespect may just be reality for someone else.

Originally Posted by EveV (Post 507446)

Although I don't agree with rachelle
That'sss a bit harsh.
Thing is, it isn't hard to pick out something wrong with every religion.
So what you call disrespect may just be reality for someone else, aswell.

Originally Posted by XrachelleX (Post 507430)

i am fully aware of that. i was just trying to explain the consequences that could put our country at such a serious risk for another prolonged war. and another reason why i wouldnt vote for Obama is becuase his pastor is saying wrong things about the Bible. [please excuse my thoughts] but it seems weirds that Obama calls himself a Christian when both of pastors are saying disrespectful things about the Bible.