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alanX 08-03-2009 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 755907)
I know I don't like Hunt's ketchup because I have had Hunt's ketchup and I have had Heinz ketchup and I know I like Heinz better.

That being said, I don't know if I would say "I don't like Hunt's ketchup" if that is the only ketchup I have ever had before. I would probably say "I don't like ketchup."

One time I had a dream about a rainbows and purple dragons.



MMM, please excuse me, but I have no clue what your post is talking about. Please clear it up for me?

LuckyLuck 08-03-2009 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by alanX (Post 755911)
One time I had a dream about a rainbows and purple dragons.



MMM, please excuse me, but I have no clue what your post is talking about. Please clear it up for me?

Well part of what he's saying is .. how can you hate your country if you haven't even really lived outside of it?

Quailboy 08-03-2009 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by alanX (Post 755911)
One time I had a dream about a rainbows and purple dragons.



MMM, please excuse me, but I have no clue what your post is talking about. Please clear it up for me?

He is reffering to catsup brands as countries.

Saying that if the USA is the only one you've "had" before. That you should say "I dont like life/society" instead of, I dont like the USA.

Correct me if I'm wrong on this one MMM

LuckyLuck 08-03-2009 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Quailboy (Post 755913)
He is reffering to catsup brands as countries.

Saying that if the USA is the only one you've "had" before. That you should say "I dont like life/society" instead of, I dont like the USA.

Correct me if I'm wrong on this one MMM

Hah you're much better at interpretation then me lol.

MMM 08-03-2009 02:29 AM

You both are right. I don't spend a lot of time thinking about loving or not loving the USA, but you read here time and time again about how people appreciate their home country so much more after living some place else (in this case, Japan, but it could be anywhere, I suppose).

You get a different perspective that will, without fail, change the way you think about your home country.

That is why I don't think people who have never lived (and I mean "lived") outside of their home country can say "I hate it" because you have nothing to compare it to.

You can say you don't agree with the government or don't like certain things, of course, but I would reserve saying "I hate the USA" before you know anything besides the USA.

Megabyte117 08-03-2009 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by LuckyLuck (Post 755903)
Ohhh Yeah reread it. I was taking it as being told to get off the forum because I an opposing opinion. My mistake thanks for catching that.

Sorry if it sounded that way :o

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It's not as simple packing up your bags and leaving my friend.
I understand that. It's simply infuriating to read "I hate America" from Japan obsessed teenagers who don't appreciate the freedoms we have that many others don't.

I live in Arizona where there are (I'm not justifying illegal immigration) countless hispanics who risked their lives for a better one. I have many Mexican friends who love this country for the priveleges they have even when some are not as financially able as many on this forum clearly are.

alanX 08-03-2009 02:36 AM

Oh I understand.

I've lived in Australia and Japan.
And Canada. (Kind of)

I can still say I don't really have a liking for America.

alanX 08-03-2009 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Megabyte117 (Post 755921)
It's simply infuriating to read "I hate America" from Japan obsessed teenagers who don't appreciate the freedoms we have that many others don't.

You obviously don't know me.
I absolutely love the freedom that we have in America, I'm very blessed to live in a country as such.

This doesn't mean I like America.

Quailboy 08-03-2009 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 755917)
You both are right. I don't spend a lot of time thinking about loving or not loving the USA, but you read here time and time again about how people appreciate their home country so much more after living some place else (in this case, Japan, but it could be anywhere, I suppose).

You get a different perspective that will, without fail, change the way you think about your home country.

That is why I don't think people who have never lived (and I mean "lived") outside of their home country can say "I hate it" because you have nothing to compare it to.

You can say you don't agree with the government or don't like certain things, of course, but I would reserve saying "I hate the USA" before you know anything besides the USA.

So having said that, should I take my statement and change it to "I hate -insert long list of things I hate about America-"?

alanX 08-03-2009 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Quailboy (Post 755926)
So having said that, should I take my statement and change it to "I hate -insert long list of things I hate about America-"?

Yes.
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