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ozkai 05-07-2009 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by alanX (Post 711206)
You are obviously missing the point of my statement, you should go back to the chat thread. :D



Then you must have an extremely unstable mentality.

Do you mean a difficult brain to pick?

Debi 05-07-2009 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by alanX (Post 711206)
You are obviously missing the point of my statement, you should go back to the chat thread. :D

Oh you know, the meaning of your statements doesnt interest me.

Why would I care about the opinion of someone who is so stubborn that once his point is refuted he hide behind a "I can have any opinion I want even if it's wrong". ?

alanX 05-07-2009 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Debi (Post 711212)
Oh you know, the meaning of your statements doesnt interest me.

Why would I care about the opinion of someone who is so stubborn that once his point is refuted he hide behind a "I can have any opinion I want even if it's wrong". ?

Then don't take the time to quote me?

My point was I know 50+ people who use marijuana, and have no symptoms or marijuana related illnesses. Therefore, I see no problem with marijuana. Despite all the single minded individuals in this thread such as yourself. It's not a debatable issue. None of my "opinions" were "refuted."

Have a wonderful day.

Debi 05-07-2009 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by alanX (Post 711213)
Then don't take the time to quote me?

My point was I know 50+ people who use marijuana, and have no symptoms or marijuana related illnesses. Therefore, I see no problem with marijuana. Despite all the single minded individuals in this thread such as yourself. It's not a debatable issue. None of my "opinions" were "refuted."

Have a wonderful day.

Well I know people who suffered from mental illness and it was directly linked to the use of weed.

And I also read scientific articles proving the link of mental illness and use of marijuana.

So just agree that I'm right and we can move on.

alanX 05-07-2009 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Debi (Post 711216)
Well I know people who suffered from mental illness and it was directly linked to the use of weed.

And I also read scientific articles proving the link of mental illness and use of marijuana.

So just agree that I'm right and we can move on.

Or I could ignore your useless/irrelevant/wrong posts and move on anyways?

Debi 05-07-2009 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by alanX (Post 711220)
Or I could ignore your useless/irrelevant/wrong posts and move on anyways?

Irrelevant ?

This is about legalizing marijuana and I say marijuana contribute to developp mental illness which is TOTALLY relevant to the topic.

You say " Oh you know... I know friendzzzz who smoke pot and it's alright dude..."

alanX 05-07-2009 03:54 AM

Once you take a few steps outside and experience the real world and realize weed is everywhere, and it's never going anywhere, no matter how many mental problems you think it causes, then we'll have a kiddy debate on a forum.

Untill then, good luck and good day.

Debi 05-07-2009 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by alanX (Post 711224)
Once you take a few steps outside and experience the real world and realize weed is everywhere, and it's never going anywhere, no matter how many mental problems you think it causes, then we'll have a kiddy debate on a forum.

Untill then, good luck and good day.

It's not the first time I hear you say that kind of thing.

You also asked Sangetsu if he ever stepped out of his mother basement.

So you have the feeling you know so much more about the real world than the others ?

You are a high school kid, remember it.

You don't even have the right to drink, vote, buy cigarettes, it's not for no reasons.

Sangetsu 05-07-2009 04:01 AM

Sangetsu---I am sorry. Something strange happened to you post.

I hate to ask you, but could you repost here?

My apologies.

-MMM

MMM 05-07-2009 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sangetsu (Post 711150)
But drugs have not been legalized in Portugal, merely decriminalized. "Decriminalized" does not mean "legal". Possess any amount of drugs in Portugal, and you are subject to arrest. If you are caught with drugs, they will be taken away from you, and you will be arrested until you are interviewed by a commissioner. You will be fined, you will be required to perform whatever service you are sentenced to. You will also be required to see a drug abuse counselor, and receive addiction treatment if it is thought necessary.

Please to not tell people that drugs are legal in Portugal when they aren't.

If semantics are the issue, then yes, I should have said "decriminalized" and not "legal". Alcohol is "legal" in the US, but illegal if you are under 21, drink too much of it in public, drink too much of it and drive...etc.

So it is "illegal" but there is no "criminal penalty".

Drugs in Portugal: Did Decriminalization Work? - TIME

... Portugal, which in 2001 became the first European country to officially abolish all criminal penalties for personal possession of drugs, including marijuana, cocaine, heroin and methamphetamine.

At the recommendation of a national commission charged with addressing Portugal's drug problem, jail time was replaced with the offer of therapy.


Decriminalized or legalized, it worked in the very Catholic country of Portugal, and I think it could work here in the US.

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Originally Posted by Sangetsu (Post 711227)
Marijuana does have a death count, and a ridiculously high one at that. Do you know how many murders were committed in Mexico last year? More than 2000 were killed in Juarez alone, and that number will be surpassed this year.

Why are these murders being committed? Because the drug cartels are fighting over the few remaining smuggling routes into America. The most common drug being imported is marijuana.

My mother lives near the border, and hears the news stories every day. A police chief was killed by drug smugglers last year because he dared to try and stop them. But the smugglers weren't happy with just killing him, so they showed up at his funeral and killed his family as well.

Those of you in America who smoke pot in America are the ones to blame for these thousands of deaths. You think marijuana is harmless, not realizing that people are killing and dying just so you can get high.

Imagine what would happen if the government sold marijuana at pennies on the dollar of what the drug cartels sell it at. How many lives would that save a year? Decriminalization means no more money to drug cartels. Thousands of lives would be saved every year.


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