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Kim Gu - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Kim Gu's Assassin, Ahn Doo Whi, was an American Agent - alt.politics.korea | Google Groups Then the Korean War happened afterwards. Not many people know this, but even within the very short years of existence of South Korea before the Korean War, South Korea was a very huge ground for Communist activity. And today South Korea hoards closet left wing activists the most in Asia. The South Korean government can't even reconcile with some of its own citizens. This is hardly a surprise. |
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Jeju Uprising - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Bodo League massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia And surprisingly, it was a moderate left-wing ex-South Korean president who sincerely apologized to the South Korean citizens for the decades long massacre made by an anti-Communist first president. |
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How about some transparency. you sent these to me, I'll leave it here for others to see who is the one that has an problem. But I like posting PMs. Can't swallow any good advices? Or are you just cranky? Lighten up, Francis. Don't make too many enemies like the ancient Romans did. Don't panic in front of criticism that you really hate. It only blinds you from answering straight. Remember, I was used to be a person who really despise North Korea like the rest of us around the world. Forward Message Here's my original question to you. What? Why do you defend North Kore so much? AND Bash America so much? In what way was that in anger? Kim Gu's Assassin, Ahn Doo Whi, was an American Agent - alt.politics.korea | Google Groups that article gives no sources for us to look up, so I'm going to ask you to provide more evidence to support that Ahn worked for the USA. That said in no way did the USA authorized him to assassinate kim Gu. This is the problem. People hate North Korea too much despite they don't have any good insights on pre-Korean War North and South Koreas. I'm sorry, but I don't understand why the past affects what they do NOW. Germany wasn't condemned because of the past, and today isn't condemned because of the past (they since put themselves on an "good" path). Nazi Germany was condemned, and this is where we are at with North Korea. Jeju Uprising - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Bodo League massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Those events don't excuse South Korea, same as the suppression of Blacks in Past America. The simple question is, do they still do it now? Unlike North Korea witch continues to be an rogue nation. Also why do you use the terms mind-boggling? nobora rison, This is what North Korea does. It's not about what they have done but what they continue to do. The hidden gulag | The San Diego Union-Tribune Daimnation!: North Korean atrocities Revealed: the gas chamber horror of North Korea's gulag | World news | The Observer North Korean atrocities ignored Auschwitz Under Our Noses (washingtonpost.com) Yale Daily News - North Korean defector describes atrocities |
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I'm criticizing more than two countries equally: North Korea, South Korea, and USA. You are circling your own arguments now. How pity of you. I suggest drop it. |
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That said, you still have eluded my questions pointed at you like you just eluded this one. that article gives no sources for us to look up, so I'm going to ask you to provide more evidence to support that Ahn worked for the USA. That said in no way did the USA authorized him to assassinate kim Gu. So are you going to answer my questions or try to "downgrade" me? |
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Remember. Korean-American history researchers are catered for the South Korean academia and audience, not for the American academia and audience. Can't read it? Don't think about it. |
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The problem is that the academic paper is indeed written first in Korean. Consider that Korean to Korean summarization is less of an error. It says that Ahn Doo-Hwi was an American agent and the American writer who wrote the report of Kim Gu's assassination perfectly admitted that Ahn Doo-Hwi was an American agent. All in Korean. |
What is more scary fact for a lot of people is that South Korea before the Korean War has unusually significant left wing or Communist activities.
This is very obvious consider how the union workers in South Korea still preserves this tradition before the Korean War. Not to mention the National Security Act (NSA). |
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What position or authority does this writer have to "admit"? |
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Besides, solemnclockwork, we are talking about South Korea.
When you discuss about South Korea, think like a South Korean, not American. My previous thread talks about South Korea and you just bluntly say that "America had/has people who want an communist party.America doe that too". That sounds awkward, isn't it? It seems that you never really read my posts sincerely in the first place. Of course, your first post in this thread is more like an shock of indignation than a sincere question. I don't know whether you really care for discussion or just merely harping the thread around since your questionable first post. |
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> he had worked for the US "intelligence" orgs. In fact Ahn Doo Whi > claimed he was an OSS major!<< The reason for these false claims is to make the claimant sound more credible and to try to shift responsibility from the individual or political organization to someone else, generally the U.S. > >>The question is how much Nichols and his Korean pals were involved in > the assassination business. As you know Nichols writes in his memoirs > that he had quite few folks snubbed out and that he was having nightmares > about his victims.<< Hard to say how much Nichols was involved since he was a "loose cannon" and a lot of what he, or his organization did, was not cleared with higher headquarters. Also, he often did things to further his standing with Rhee and others in the Korean government that had noting to do with the 6004th AISS's mission. There also some question about some of his "successes" although there is no question but that he did accomplish a number of spectacular intelligence coups. > >.Also, Kim In Ho writes in his memoirs that he worked for a Korean > "agent" of the US CIC in 1948-1950.<< The only CIC unit in South Korea after June 30, 1949, was the detachment with KMAG Headquarters in Seoul. This detachment had one or two CIC agents with KMAG detachments at Taejon, Kwang-ju, Kangnung and Pusan. It is likely Kim In Ho was a CIC informant and continued as an informant when ROKA CIC assumed control when the Americans left. taken from Re: Kim Gu's Assassin, Ahn Doo Whi, was an American Agent Very interesting. South Korea though was NOT communist. Subjective, At the time there was an thing called the "red scare". In which communism exploded worldwide. Your point is about it not being right after ww2? |
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Please stop editing your posts before giving me an chance to reply. This is your words What is more scary fact for a lot of people is that South Korea before the Korean War has unusually significant left wing or Communist activities. This is very obvious consider how the union workers in South Korea still preserves this tradition before the Korean War. Not to mention the National Security Act (NSA). To which I responded What point is it to post this? America had/has people who want an communist party Know why I responded that way? Because nations have groups of people who think differently then the others. the first post was an question as to why i wanted to know why in every thread you defend North Korea so much. |
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You, however, had taken this simple misunderstanding to a whole new level and criticize me without any reasons. It's because people have so much misconception about South Korea and North Korea. |
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http://www.japanforum.com/forum/gene...tml#post734202 comparing the south and saying it's as "evil" as the North. http://www.japanforum.com/forum/gene...tml#post726067 Saying that South Korea will be an government dictatorship. http://www.japanforum.com/forum/gene...tml#post726313 Saying that there was an good reason for the starvation of it's people, while also saying south is doing the same thing. http://www.japanforum.com/forum/gene...tml#post722404 Saying you are natural towards North Korea, and saying you have no problems with the country. My whole point it SEEMS like you support North Korea. |
ok...ok...ok.....let stop here right...there is no use continue on and on...right guys..
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However, the current president Lee Myeong-bak is doing a very huge disservice to the South Korean society that we will actually thinking of impeaching him with utmost grassroot pressure. Sorry to say but the current president, Lee Myeong-bak is perhaps the worst president South Korea ever has as of today compare to other democratically elected presidents. |
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It is perhaps because not everybody's familiar what is going on in South Korea and they have some unintended prejudice about particular stuffs on North or South Korea. |
I Said Knock It Off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I just feel hopeless of my existance here. Oh, whatever. I'm not angry. Just empty and bitter because of the single piece of misconception two months ago has brought this huge series of argument today. |
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Ironically, these two bantering back and forth present an example of why the various groups involved can't get along.
Personally, I can't see it from the North or South Korean perspective because I'm an American. Conversely, they can't see it from my perspective because they aren't American. Just as everyone has thier personal take on any given situation, so too, do nations. I do admit that the USA does tend to meddle in other nations. Sometimes it is a help and sometimes not. However, one should consider this. Haveing power to change things in a positive manner and chooseing not to use that power is just as bad as doing something harmful. America means well more often than not, it just tends to blunder into things because we tend to be bull headed. Should America use more care in considering the perspectives and cultures of other nations? Certainly, I also don't have any illusion than when the perverbial ---- hits the fan, it's the USA everyone will be turning to for help. We end up being the bad guys if we do something, or we end up the bad guys becuase we didn't. It's just how the world works. As to wether North and South could get together..that's up to them. |
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From what i hear, North Korea is INCREDIBLY hard to get out of once you get in, and it's not particularly open and in many ways, in comparison to south korea, it's supposed to be pretty backwards. [I hear you don't want to go out after 6 in NK, you could easily get shot] |
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A South Korean tourist not long back was shot dead inside North Korea after straying away from the walking path. I believe she was quite old and got a little disorientated. Not a good country to take your skateboard! |
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