Video Game and Movie Piracy
 

What do you people here at JF think about it?

Personally. I think its fine..until companies can find a way to stop it, I say the consumer should not have to deal with outragous prices, esprcially for Games.

Who here really wants to buy games for $60 a piece?


A reason I would choose to pirate games is because sometimes I have to patch them to work on my consoles. Even if I were to import them, they wouldn't work.

I really dont think Piracy has to do with the price of games going on the rise.
Regardless of how many pirates there are, there are always going to be little kids, parents and "honest, good-hearted" people to buy the games in mass amounts.

Another reason for 360 game Piracy? The console itself is defective, even if the system is left still while playing a game, sometimes will become unreadable..how the hell wants to spend $60 on a game that they take care of yet the system has to mess it up? Not Me.

I'll stick to my $15 10 Packs of Blanks.

I expect you to be butthurt soon owo

>.< It happened.

This isn't really a topic that will pan out well in this forum, in my opinion.

I doubt it will. This is for a few people that I know will have good views on the topic and will debate it with me.

Thats the thing though, game devs still make tons of profite even with piracy running rampant. Ok..I know I'm lying (looks at the Dreamcast) But thats a different story,that was way easier than 360 Piracy.

Yes, not making any money means they can lower the price of things. People stealing things from these companies is what drives them out of business, which means less for you to enjoy in the long run.

See, with my 360, I had to pay for about $120 in equiptment and did ALOT of research for it, pirating isn't easy. Not alot of people choose to do so because the initial hassle is so bad.

About imports, exctly..I love japanese games..but they wont run on a stock 360, so I have to mod it anyways..why not just burn it then?

When you could have spent that time doing something actually constructive instead of working on a plan to steal stuff?

Other do respect it, I love video games as an art form and I do respect it..others choose to take the hard way and buy thier games for full price, others buy used copys, some choose to pirate..which of the 3 is easier in the long run?

MMM, if your going to close it after you provide your oppinion on the subject, I lose respect for that, I realize its against JF rules but placeing your input in the thread and then closing it from further discussion dosen't seem right.

Hate to tell you, but you can't respect something and steal it at the same time. You have not respect for games if you are pirating.

Thats not true at all.
I would like to start a flame war off of this but, I'm too nice for that.

I love and respect games, but in my current situation I cannot afford to buy all of them that come out that I would like own legally. I dont pirate all of my games, just until I have enough to buy real copys.

when a great game comes out, there will be fans willing to buy the actual copy. take street fighter 4 for an example. me, my brothers, family and friends were all waiting for the release. each of my brothers bought a copy, all of my friends and family had one copy in their household. we did not think twice about if we should wait for a "fake" copy to hit the internet. about any other game that is not worth waiting for i simply do not play, nor download. if it is not worth the money, it's not worth the time. next games to buy = StarCraft2 and Diablo 3 :)

See, I wasn't waiting for the release, I got the game a week early.

Edit.
I am awaiting MMM's epicly long responce and the closing of the thread all in one -_-

Stealing cars off of lots. What do you guys at JF think about it?

Personally I think it is fine..until car manufacturers can find a way to stop it, I say the consumer should not have to deal with the outrageous prices of cars.

Who here really wants to buy cars for $20,000 a piece?

I reason I choose to steal cars is because sometimes i have to find new ways to hotwire them to make them run. Even if I were to import them my keys wouldn't work.

I really dont think Stealing has to do with the price of cars going on the rise.
Regardless of how many thieves there are, there are always going to be new drivers, parents, and "honest, good-hearted" people to buy the cars off the lots.

Another reason for Stealing? The cars aren't perfect, and sometimes my hotwire doesn't work and the car won't go...how the hell wants to spend $20,000 on a car that they take care of, but is messed up? Not me.

it's not about getting it "early" the time i spent waiting for it i youtubed how the japanese people are playing and looked up combo's to try later. i much rather wait for a real release than wait for my bar to hit 100% and pray it works. the problem with pirated games is that people get so much games that they get bored of them quickly. if you wait for one certain game to come out such as your favorite series, you will hang on to it longer. i don't know, i guess i rather play the same old game over and over. have your fun

This made me smile MMM. Thank you.
You have made video games seem as important and needed as cars. Good for you ^_^

hahaha. that my friends, is why MMM is my now favorite moderator.
if you like a game so much, you should save up and buy it. otherwise it's not worth owning in the first place. spend your time on something else such as school... i thought the OP was trying to turn his life around and excel in his studies, but threads like this make me think otherwise.

I download maybe 5 games a year.

I play SF4 Non-Stop as SF is one of my favorite series, I have a tourney this month and one next month.

I know my games work when I download them because I get them from a reliable source, not some random ass torrent site.

I'm 16, school is out, i'm going back in the fall while taking all AP classes so I can finish on time.

Your making it sound as though I'm an axe murderer.

I am not going to tell you what to do, but don't ever again say that "love and respect" games. You have no respect for the work that goes into entertaining you. It takes hundreds of people thousands of hours to make a game like Street Fighter 4, but if you spend 15 minutes downloading it on the Internet and burning it to a CD it is worth about a much as a gumball in your eyes. Actually pay for a game and you will appreciate what goes into making it.

Like I said on the other thread, you have never made anything, so you don't know what it means to have it stolen from you. When you become a contributing member of society this will make sense to you.

I will say it and I will stand by it MMM.

I love and respect games.

You cannot be one to tell me what I love and respect. That isn't how the world works.

i think he was making a comparison like for example, if you respect your uncle so much, you wouldn't steal from him. something along those lines.

Yeah I just understood that, a little off topic, Jack...it dosen't matter that you watch how the Japanese play SF4 the US will never be on there level haha

I'm understanding that pirating games is wrong, but honestly, I dont really care. I'm not trying to say that it is right because obviously it is illegal.

I have watched a few movies that I downloaded and a couple seasons of TV shows. I have also watched streamed copies of some TV shows. I have also used some downloaded applications in the past. However, I would never pay for pirated copies. That is the ultimate in piracy. Paying someone other than the IP holder for the use of the product is supporting someone making money on a work that isn't theirs.

As far as the price of games and movies, I have only payed full original retal price for a few of them. And I only payed more than $20 for one game FFVII, but even then I convinced my brother to go in half with me so it only cost me $20. I am content to wait for games to come down in price because they ultimately do. It is the same for movies and music. I have a base line of not paying more than $10 for a CD or DVD unless it is something that I know is really good. However, that does not mean I will dowload it so I can watch or listen to it.

I have no qualms with watching copies of network TV programs. This is because it is allready broadcast for free. Maintaining archive copies of downloaded content I don't really agree with because you are partaking in distribution but I won't strongly argue against it.

Tell the people who make those games that you love and respect the games you steal.

Think they'll agree?

I couldn't tell you, would you like me to write to Capcom and see what they think if I ever get a responce MMM?

i think americans match up pretty well. my brother's friend alex is ranked pretty high in the world. it landed him a job as a game tester, pretty sweet deal i'd say.

Yeah, I'm done with this topic. Trying to convince someone that thinks like this is completely useless.

Alex?
If he's a good SF player I should know the name.

yeah, the "i don't care" in a debate is pretty much a fatality. i thought there would be a little more discussion :)

Yeah, I'm sorry my debate sucks right now guys..thread closing time? At least I had fun bitching with all of you.

he's freakin' good in 4, but i think he's more known for 2 and 3rd strike.

This is what I do for a living, Quailboy. If you want I can ask them for you. Or you can just ask me if I think you "love and respect" games. But I already told you what I think.

I would love for you to do that, please, write to Capcom for me.


@Jack: Would his last name be Valle?

Right there. Where is the "respect" you supposedly have? You may "love" games like a pothead loves weed, but you don't respect them. If you did you would respect the people that make them. You don't.

i think so, he is hispanic/lantino/mexican... i'm not sure what he wants to be called this year :)

I'm serious, if you would like to write to Capcom and ask thier opinion on the matter, I would like you to.


@Jack: Would he have went to Japan a few years ago and beat a guy named "Diago"?