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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 758120)

I think the standard of public schools is slipping in the west, but rising in the east. Yet the standard of private/expensive schools is rising world wide.

I've seen some "average" kids around the age of 14 and such which don't even know the difference between "their", "there" and "they're". Things like that. It is shocking. English skills in the middle class is definatly falling.

Also, history... well, need I say more? Most schools barely even cover it until you're about 16 or 17, and then it's usually by option.

My father never attended school beyond the age of 16, yet he's got a better knowledge of history than most university graduates. He learned it when he was about 10.

Also, discipline is almost non existant now. It means the kids who don't have self motivation cannot have motivation forced upon them, pretty much gaurenteing they'll have a shit future.

In my schools. we have took history everywhere 1st grade to 12th.

Yea discipline is horrible now. Alot of people get arrested at my school for fights or drugs all the time.

Maybe there is a difference between Australia and America.

We learned almost no history. Here I am, 22, and having to self educate myself through documentries because school was a waste of time.

I would guess so then? bcuz trust me, if school was a waste of time, I would have dropped out already. =P

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 758129)

Maybe there is a difference between Australia and America.

We learned almost no history. Here I am, 22, and having to self educate myself through documentries because school was a waste of time.

I think there is a difference. does australian schools take tests to graduate? or move onto the next grade?

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Originally Posted by Kandierain15 (Post 758131)

I would guess so then? bcuz trust me, if school was a waste of time, I would have dropped out already. =P

Well I did drop out at 14. I went back at 18 (so I'd skipped 4 years, but it didn't matter and I passed all subjects with top marks) because I needed more education for the Infantry.

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Originally Posted by Kenpachi11 (Post 758133)

I think there is a difference. does australian schools take tests to graduate? or move onto the next grade?

Assesments are done that include the teachers perspective of you for the entire year. There is no single test. I never encountered a student who was held back for being a retard.

At the end of high school, when you're 18, you do your HSC (high school certificate). Very important exams, but the only ones.

After that, you'll either go to a technical college; TAFE. Or an academic University.

There is no College in Australia, where you go stay at the school and have sex with sluts.

oh my... to lose the school yrs from ages 14 to 18? that would basically be high school.... if your were in america... You would lose a lot of education from doing that

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Originally Posted by Kandierain15 (Post 758141)

oh my... to lose the school yrs from ages 14 to 18? that would basically be high school.... if your were in america... You would lose a lot of education from doing that

Well, in going back, being good at the subjects mostly depends on how much common sense you have.

In most countries in the world, history isn't considered as important as subjects like Math, English (or whatever the official language of that country is) and Sciences.

At high school (10 - 16), here in England, I had around 13 subjects... There isn't enough time to get any of these subjects taught properly. For history, I think I had 1 or 2 hours a week!

Back to difficulty of subjects... I think in the West, it kinda sucks until you get to education after 16. I remember in Algeria, the Math I covered in the first year of Primary school wasn't covered for another 3 years in England. I was top of my classes in Math without understanding a single word of English...

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Originally Posted by noodle (Post 758149)

I remember in Algeria, the Math I covered in the first year of Primary school wasn't covered for another 3 years in England. I was top of my classes in Math without understanding a single word of English...

I had the same deal when I was a kid. I moved from a Catholic private school to a public state school. The state school was about 3 years behind in math.

I think it was grade 3 (age 8 - 9) we learned long multiplication. At the state school, they made me do it not until grade 6 (age 11 - 12).