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bELyVIS 02-24-2010 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Michelle1968 (Post 801492)
My mom owns a Toyota and like a friend of mine said years ago after buying a Toyota, "you never see a Toyota broken down on the side of the road".

Just crashed into a building! :D

komitsuki 03-03-2010 03:04 AM

Guess people forgot that Toyota has other venues besides automobile: finance and shipping.

amandabenami 03-03-2010 05:05 AM

too bad for the reputation of toyota as one of the worlds top car manufacturer. But as what CEO toyoda promised they will make several improvements on quality assurance but damaged has been done. Our family is not a big fan of Toyota, we go with bmw and honda.

Klint 03-03-2010 05:16 AM

We're picking up a new Toyota Tacoma tomorrow. :)

Nyororin 03-03-2010 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Klint (Post 802594)
We're picking up a new Toyota Tacoma tomorrow. :)

Congratulations. :D
We picked up our new Prius on Saturday. :)

MMM 03-03-2010 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by amandabenami (Post 802587)
too bad for the reputation of toyota as one of the worlds top car manufacturer. But as what CEO toyoda promised they will make several improvements on quality assurance but damaged has been done. Our family is not a big fan of Toyota, we go with bmw and honda.

Damage has been done. But like a broken finger or a computer virus, repairs can happen.

I don't think there is any expectation that this problem will put Toyota out of business.

kyo_9 03-03-2010 04:41 PM

in a scale of world wide, is there any damages happen on other countries besides US?

clintjm 03-05-2010 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 802597)
Damage has been done. But like a broken finger or a computer virus, repairs can happen.

True. But it seems the repairs aren't working in this case. Complaints are coming in.
One can only hope that the out of all the recalls being done, that these are simply mechanic errors in the repair.

US National News:

FOXNews.com - Drivers Complain That Toyota's Fixes Didn't Work

Toyota Recall Fix Not Working, Drivers Tell Federal Safety Agency - ABC News

Gas pedal still sticking and the brake and gas failsafe not completely working at moderate speeds.


Chilling 911 call minutes before crash: note this is before Toyota acknowledged the problem. Many stories like this are breaking all around the US and continue to climb.
Needless to say that neither the 911 operator nor the driver or occupants knew how to stop the vehicle.Warning: This audio is graphic and shocking. Before Toyota could be bothered to recall 3.8 million Toyota and Lexus cars that they had known for two years had a problem, an off-duty state trooper and three members of his family had to die in fatal car crash when the gas pedal got stuck on the floormat.

Toyota: 911 Call Of Family's Fatal Lexus Crash Due To Gas Pedal Stuck On Floormats - The Consumerist

I would avoid listening to the audio, but the comments to this speaks volumes as to how wide spread these problems were through an Internet like underground. At this time 10/2009 Toyota was forced to admit there was a problem with only certain models and that the floormats were the problem.

In regards to the gas pedal or brake fixes not being the problem, seriously, three strikes and you are out people. After seeing more stories like this, I'm hestitant to even ride as a passenger in a late model Toyota.

Other thoughts / articles:

FOXNews.com - Toyota Secretive on 'Black Box' Data

FOXNews.com - Toyota Holds Urgent Meeting at Japanese Headquarters

MMM 03-06-2010 07:56 AM

Toyota isn't the only company with acceleration issues.

I think this puts the controversy into a little bit of perspective.

Unintended Acceleration Not Limited To Toyotas : NPR

NPR Vehicle Acceleration Complaints Database : NPR

fluffy0000 03-06-2010 04:18 PM

again sorta not
 
Regulators Hired by Toyota Helped Halt Investigations
Bloomberg, Feb. 12 2010

It turns out that Banks aren’t the only entities who have managed to corrupt the political process and end up hurting themselves and the public as a result. The world’s largest automaker has managed to make a mockery of the regulatory process as well.
Toyota North America hired several employees directly from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA). These former government employees helped to end NHTSA probes into unintended acceleration occurring in some of the same vehicles that are now being massively recalled and which are apparently responsible for causing deaths. The probes were ended in 2002-03, and the employees consistently lobbied against any expanded inquiry into these issues over the past decade.-

clintjm 03-06-2010 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 803059)
Toyota isn't the only company with acceleration issues.

I think this puts the controversy into a little bit of perspective.

Unintended Acceleration Not Limited To Toyotas : NPR

NPR Vehicle Acceleration Complaints Database : NPR

Yes, and this isn't the first time in the history of autos that this problem has occured.

However the point is, nothing on this scale nor at this of DENIAL by auto company. We got it all with brakes, acceleration, and continuing problems on actually fixing this root problem.

This level of failure and death is unacceptable and it is quite a shame for all the honest employees of Toyota, but I do see a big failure coming for Toyota if this latest fix isn't the real fix.

The size of the recall, not to admit the climbing death toll, wouldn't be as high if Toyota had handled the problem immediately.

If anything this is making other car manufactures respond quicker to customer complaints of possible. In fact I think Nissan just had a 300k recall of certian models with power steering issues.

JackIsLost 03-06-2010 09:51 PM

my first car was a toyota, and my latest car is a toyota [Lexus... same thing]. yes i would buy from them again.

toyota has always been a quality manufacturer; because of this incident, they will bounce back and double check their production!

clintjm 03-12-2010 06:12 PM

And so these stories start to roll in
 
On the other side of the spectrum, these kind of stories start to roll in. Thanks for Fox News and part of the AP for looking further into this leading story, and reporting on it first. A little egg on ABC's face, but Toyota should expect these type of cases too.

Man at Wheel of 'Out-of-Control' Prius Has Troubled Financial Past - FOXNews.com

sakari09 03-13-2010 04:02 PM

lol. I drive my parents' '97 corolla. I love that car and wouldn't trade it for the world. I'll probably never earn enough to buy a brand spanking new car anyway so I wasn't too worried about the recall.

It amazes me that people don't think of turning the car off first when they go crazy. We have a Dodge caravan that goes nuts all the time...and the first thing we do is shut the stupid thing off. (I'm not very fond of Dodge anymore because of that van. :( )

Whoa..I strayed from the issue at hand. Sorry guys. >.<

siokan 03-13-2010 05:22 PM

A forgery is found out ABC news and.
When the user who made noise when an accident happened refrains from suits, does the Toyota problem go to the convergence little by little?

It is hearty welcome personally that a share of Toyota falls because I like high "Honda and Nissan" of the technology;)

clintjm 03-13-2010 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sakari09 (Post 803897)
lol. I drive my parents' '97 corolla. I love that car and wouldn't trade it for the world. I'll probably never earn enough to buy a brand spanking new car anyway so I wasn't too worried about the recall.

It amazes me that people don't think of turning the car off first when they go crazy. We have a Dodge caravan that goes nuts all the time...and the first thing we do is shut the stupid thing off. (I'm not very fond of Dodge anymore because of that van. :( )

Whoa..I strayed from the issue at hand. Sorry guys. >.<

The reason don't think of it is because you are supposed to put it in neutral versus cutting power to keep what control of the car you can; i.e. steering power is decreased heavily when power is cut, and depending on the type of braking system, you may only have a couple of pumps of the main brakes before they are useless. At high speeds, this is important.


If your Dodge is going nuts all the time, I'd have that fixed ^^/

sakari09 03-18-2010 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by clintjm (Post 803918)
The reason don't think of it is because you are supposed to put it in neutral versus cutting power to keep what control of the car you can; i.e. steering power is decreased heavily when power is cut, and depending on the type of braking system, you may only have a couple of pumps of the main brakes before they are useless. At high speeds, this is important.


If your Dodge is going nuts all the time, I'd have that fixed ^^/

It's settled down now that we fixed a melted wire lol. But I wouldn't drive it over our corolla. XD

Trust me, I know about the power steering thing. It's a bitch to turn when we do have to shut it off, but that's been a while ago...

:)

Rauisufirippu 04-14-2010 09:50 PM

Toyota Supra is and will stay being my favourite/dreamcar.

manganimefan227 04-14-2010 09:53 PM

Shiny . . . My dream car is a blue Toyota Prius/

clintjm 04-15-2010 12:54 AM

However the recent discoveries are disturbing:

AP Articles:

FOXNews.com - Toyota Warned Europe of Accelerator Problem Well Before U.S.

FOXNews.com - Consumer Reports Says 'Don't Buy' Unsafe Lexus GX460

Internal company red tape or just not caring?

Needless to say, as with the Consumer Reports review, Toyota will be under a microscope for years to come.

clintjm 04-15-2010 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by butterfly320 (Post 808467)
God bless mechanically actuated throttles. This 'fly-by-wire' design nonsense is killing people. While I'm at it, who really needs cruise control...another hazard to the drivers around you. Picture this: a Toyota with an electronic throttle, on cruise control, with the driver talking on his hands-free cell phone going 75 down the highway....maybe it is now time to really consider public transportation!

But Toyota says it isn't an electronics problem. ^^/

Yeah but public transportation doesn't work well in America as a whole and it never will.

The automobile represents freedom; the American invention.

Nyororin 04-15-2010 04:41 AM

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Shiny . . . My dream car is a blue Toyota Prius/
My car IS a blue 2010 Prius :mtongue: (the light blue-green one only out in Japan)

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Internal company red tape or just not caring?

Needless to say, as with the Consumer Reports review, Toyota will be under a microscope for years to come.
Having done work with Toyota and affiliates, I am much more inclined to think that it is due to red tape and the different leaders and policies of the international branches. They don`t always seem to be on the same page.

Now that hopefully the huge media fiasco has sort of died down, it will be a lot more reasonable. Being under the microscope is fine - and likely a pretty good thing in terms of raising quality.

clintjm 04-15-2010 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 808487)

Now that hopefully the huge media fiasco has sort of died down, it will be a lot more reasonable.


Oh... good grief.

Maybe Toyota can fix it problems by shooting over to eHow | How To Do Just About Everything! | How To Videos & Articles

If we take a trip back a couple of months by to November of '09, we'll remember the Media is the only thing that might of saved lives while Toyota was still on the denial train in the US.

JackIsLost 04-15-2010 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rauisufirippu (Post 808442)
Toyota Supra is and will stay being my favourite/dreamcar.

i'd take this 1977 celica over that supra :D this is my toyota dream car

manganimefan227 04-16-2010 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 808487)
My car IS a blue 2010 Prius :mtongue: (the light blue-green one only out in Japan)



Having done work with Toyota and affiliates, I am much more inclined to think that it is due to red tape and the different leaders and policies of the international branches. They don`t always seem to be on the same page.

Now that hopefully the huge media fiasco has sort of died down, it will be a lot more reasonable. Being under the microscope is fine - and likely a pretty good thing in terms of raising quality.

Oh well I meant a royal blue prius :p


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