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RealJames 12-11-2010 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 841143)
This is getting rather silly.

I agree, it's like arguing with a drunk.

The climate talks that just ended in Mexico had the most pivotal point based on if a country is developed or not, 1st world or not.

I keep getting pulled into this by wanting to correct and point out the irrational and distorted views being mentioned but I feel silly saying what I'm saying to anyone other than a 10 year old...

komitsuki 12-11-2010 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 841185)
You're the one who used the term first!


Now you're saying it's insignificant!

This doesn't mean that I necessarily believe in this.

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Originally Posted by RealJames (Post 841197)
I agree, it's like arguing with a drunk.

I keep getting pulled into this by wanting to correct and point out the irrational and distorted views being mentioned but I feel silly saying what I'm saying to anyone other than a 10 year old...

Let me be this clear. As a South Korean (Korean-Canadian), North Korea isn't our enemy. That's what I'm talking about and that's why I kept posting South Korean news links in the other thread.

Let me ask you this. North Korea doesn't need to wage a war. The South Korean government is already collapsing with our president's stupidity. Why wage a war in this situation?

komitsuki 12-11-2010 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 841143)
This is getting rather silly. Of course S. Korea is a First World Country. They import and export, have a strong economy.

If you think that designation is "Nazi era" then that is fine, but it doesn't help fuel the conversation. S. Koreans are not eaten by animals and live in electricity-free huts. It's OK that S. Korea is First World.

That's not the point. It seems that people don't understand the history of South Korea since 1945 because that's very crucial to understand North Korea.

Want to fully understand North Korea? Then study South Korea after the Japanese Colonialism.

fluffy0000 12-11-2010 05:31 PM

again sorta not
 
You can't eat history dude.
The South Korean government situation is nowhere near the North Korean governments near collapse and roller coaster ride into oblivion .

On any given day North Korea and it's leadership make the internal problems of South Korea's, corruption and mismanagement ,political intrigue insignificant and pale next to the North Korean ' train wreck' in slow motion.

Since 1994 North Korea has been on the losing end of bad central planning and record famine and starvation. Isolated from both it's sponsors and the rest of the world North Korea has little options other than rolling over and collapsing or stage another military demonstration in hope of recieving either food or fuel until the next disaster.

Ronin4hire 12-11-2010 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by komitsuki (Post 841229)
This doesn't mean that I necessarily believe in this.

So why did you use it?

Why do I get the feeling that you're just making stuff up as you go along.

RealJames 12-12-2010 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by komitsuki (Post 841229)
The South Korean government is already collapsing with our president's stupidity.

...... ?!?!?!

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Originally Posted by komitsuki (Post 841229)
Why wage a war in this situation?

Because your "friend" to the north has nukes and has shown huge irresponsibility with regards to military action.
in other words - they are a time bomb and Seoul is at their door-step, if not Seoul then maybe Japan.

Ronin4hire 12-12-2010 05:49 AM

Willing to wager anything komitsuki?

I'm so confident the SK government won't collapse that if the South Korean government collapses (losing an election doesn't count, by collapse I mean the whole system actually dissolves) I will create a whole new thread titled "Komitsuki is right and I suck balls"

What are you willing to do?

GoNative 12-12-2010 06:06 AM

Komisuki would certainly make a good little communist, he appears to believe in all the ridiculous propaganda without question! ;)

Atredies 12-12-2010 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by RealJames (Post 841297)
Because your "friend" to the north has nukes and has shown huge irresponsibility with regards to military action.
in other words - they are a time bomb and Seoul is at their door-step, if not Seoul then maybe Japan.

China, North Korea reach consensus over crisis-Xinhua | Reuters

are you not too late to say this now? state councilor dai bingguo visited dprk and met kim jongil of course with a very good result. it makes think that how incompetent obama is.

thank you prc for bringing peace to the world! america loves you!

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Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 841324)
"Komitsuki is right and I suck balls"

listen boy. a thread about homosexuality is not allowed. sucking balls? how vulgar to a lady! this is not how a rational man should think!

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Originally Posted by GoNative (Post 841325)
Komisuki would certainly make a good little communist, he appears to believe in all the ridiculous propaganda without question! ;)

i am an american learning mandarin and been to china for weeks. i love china. does that make me a communist? you can call me a communist if you dislike me. i however do not think the republicans and the democrats properly represent my beloved america. do not worry too much china will fix america without obstructing our system.

GoNative 12-12-2010 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Atredies (Post 841329)
i am an american learning mandarin and been to china for weeks. i love china. does that make me a communist? you can call me a communist if you dislike me. i however do not think the republicans and the democrats properly represent my beloved america. do not worry too much china will fix america without obstructing our system.

Why would learning mandarin make you a communist? :confused:

My point was about propaganda. A repressive communist regime like in Nth Korea has complete and utter control over the media. There is no independent reporting there (if you tried you'd probably get locked up as a dissident). komisuki appears to be lapping up the propaganda with little scepticism whatsoever. It's like he's viewing the situation there from this weird parrallel universe. I do wonder sometimes if even the leaders in Nth Korea have totally lost touch with reality and started to believe in their own propaganda. Scary thought!

Atredies 12-12-2010 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by GoNative (Post 841330)
komisuki appears to be lapping up the propaganda with little scepticism whatsoever. It's like he's viewing the situation there from this weird parrallel universe. I do wonder sometimes if even the leaders in Nth Korea have totally lost touch with reality and started to believe in their own propaganda. Scary thought!

are we not living a parallel world too? i read both american and chinese newspapers and both tell the same topic completely different. the wikileaks releases are out. it makes me wonder how advanced countries like my country or other european countries never tell the truth like any country keeping secrets. i am not stupid like that boys called komitsuky or ronin4hire. i merely wonder everything in a big picture now i am tying to expand my views other than insulting potentially innocent people like others have done.

meanwhile i will copy my favorite funny wikileaks releases of recent origins.

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Malaysia is in a "confused and dangerous" state due to incompetent politicians.

Thailand's political elite are dogged by corruption and the country's crown prince is "very erratic and easily subject to influence".

Japan is a ''big fat loser'' and Tokyo and Delhi were struggling to deal with China's influence due to their "stupid" behaviour.

Sodomy charges were a set-up
funny. my indonesian friend often says the fact that malaysia is under a huge danger of collapse for months.

maybe we are living in the world where multiple censorships happen regardless of being freely democratic or not.

bye boys.

Ronin4hire 12-12-2010 07:45 AM

Wow... anyone make any sense out of any of that?

Atredies 12-12-2010 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 841337)
Wow... anyone make any sense out of any of that?

please do not act like that boy called komitsuky.

RealJames 12-12-2010 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Atredies (Post 841338)
please do not act like that boy called komitsuky.

This has gotten kind of emotional, and also irrational.
Keep it to facts at least...

That link you sent me wouldn't convince anyone that there is peace in the region by the way, it in fact makes it seem like everyone is planning for war...


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