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RealJames 03-21-2011 09:15 AM

oh and for the record, I think any country whose economic system has been displaced or imbalanced by a disaster or war etc is equally worthy of financial assistance.
It's not a case of a or b, it's a and b.

Ryzorian 03-22-2011 04:45 AM

Give to whatever cause you feel justified in giveing too..
Ronin, your free to do that same as anyone. So you don't give to Japan..that's fine. It's your choice..same as it's anyone's choice to give to Japan if they want to.

Your complaining aboout percieved misplaced donations...Maybe you should be glad they are willing to donate to begin with.

otaku4life 03-25-2011 11:41 PM

Why should Haiti Get the donations just cause they are "poor". the leadership of Haiti is keeping that country in poverty. Nobody can reliability say where the money being donated to Haiti is going to. the leadership if Japan is more trust worthy then of Haiti hell the leadership of Japan is smarter then the current leadership of America which shames me greatly. Man it sucks when you have a President who tells Japan a Kick ass Partner in defending Western Civilization which just had a earth quake our bond is unshakeable

kouichisan 03-26-2011 12:08 AM

Japan Earthquake: Two Weeks Later
 
Hey everyone :)

I just thought some of you guys will find it interesting to read this...

Japan Earthquake: Two Weeks Later - Alan Taylor - In Focus - The Atlantic

Atredies 03-27-2011 06:03 AM

there is a good reason not to donate to haiti. there are too many sketchy volunteering groups are working in haiti. just for the record haiti is as sketchy as another country called new zealand. i never regret donating money to japan.

AlexisSalas 03-27-2011 06:42 AM

Well what you are saying maybe kinda cold to some people but i kinda understand what you are trying to say, but im sure i totally disagree with your post. When you donate, you donate to the people not to the govermentm and even though it goes to the goverment it also helps the whole world, as you see japan is like the source of energy of this world, it gives food, technology and tons of thing more. Soo it affects the whole world, so donating to japan is like donating to your self. Another easy example is the cars company like toyota and nissan, some of them have stop selling since they have runned out of matterial and things, so that makes lots of un-employes, so that also affects the economy in any country, so to make this shortter. Donating to japan is donating to the whole world.

myk 04-26-2011 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nippom (Post 863258)
This forum was named 'japanforum' for a reason; it is very properly and forthrightly held to be a forum by, about, and in favor of Japan, Japanophiles, and 'all things Japanese'; yet he presumes to call this very subject into question.

There's nothing wrong with dissent, as long as it's civil. To try and rule that everything on this forum has to be one-sided in favor of Japan defeats the purpose of this place: learning.

I do agree, though, that profanity has no place here, especially in a thread discussing a sensitive topic like this one.

Ronin4hire 04-27-2011 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nippom (Post 863258)
It is inappropriate on its very face to call into question the subject of donating to Japan's quake victims, and to add 'insult to injury' by adding disparaging remarks which attack the moral standing or character of both the Japanese people, those wishing to make quake relief donations to them, or those defending such actions and their sympathizers.

The originator of this thread is inflicting enormous psychological damage not only on the contributors to this thread, but to readers of the thread and others, which may include actual Japan quake victims themselves, with his use of spurious, devious and prevaricating arguments and counter-arguments gaged to provoke and appeal to the more base forms of reasoning, in what appears to me to be an attempt to drag everyone down to some lowest common denominator of a most vulgar and unseemly nature.

I never insulted Japan or Japanese people. In fact as I've said numerous times in the thread.. Japan is probably one of the places I have a strong emotional connection with.

It was a purely rational plea, that people like you took exception PURELY based on your emotional disposition.

If you're offended then I don't really care. Because I've said nothing wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nippom (Post 863258)
I've never seen a better object example of a troll in action than when I began reading this thread from the very first post.

In spite of this, the response from other japanforum members has been overwhelmingly polite, courteous, patient, compassionate, tolerant, and well-reasoned, showing the finest examples of those rare and special qualities which we hold dear and respect and admire so highly in Japanese culture.

Domo arigato gozaimasu. (humbly bow.)

lol.. what thread are you reading? Some of the people here were equally as "rude".

Things got out of hand because I was repeatedly frustrated with having to repeat myself.

I'm not apologizing though.. just explaining.

RealJames 04-27-2011 04:21 AM

Right or wrong,
to expect people not to react purely emotionally is a little too much to ask I think ;) don't you?

especially on this forum regarding a topic which can easily be perceived as an affront to Japan ><

unicornjp 04-27-2011 02:46 PM

確かにRonin4hireさんの言うとおり、実は日本はそれほどmo neyに困っているわけじゃない。
国債の発行(個人的には止めて欲しいけど)、増税、外国 に投資している資産の引き上げ、
子会社の売却等々、復興資金を捻出する手段はいくらで もある。現に東京電力は海外事業
を売却して、補償金を作った。http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20...07-jij-bus_all
もしこれらの手段を使うとしたら、最初は海外からの資 産引き上げ、子会社の売却になるだろ
うと思う。外側から切り崩していって、極力日本本体が 痛まない方法を取るのは当然だから。
でもこの手段は世界経済の現状を考えると、困る国がた くさん出てくるでしょ。支援の催促と取
られてしまうから、これ以上は言わない。


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