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emmygirl121 09-30-2008 02:51 AM

5,000$ for an inclusive trip to Japan?
 
Today I was offered a 14 day almost all inclusive trip to Tokyo japan?
It will cost me 5,000 dollars to go. I will have to quit a couple of my extra curricular activities to help pay for it, I will be going with people to people,

Is it a good deal? Is it worth me working a ton to raise the money?
could I go for any cheaper, at my age?
comments and suggestions please :P

reptilesandsamurai 09-30-2008 03:12 AM

What are the details? The company I use is usually around $1800 - $2500 for 10 days with everything included except for meals.

Intermixi Japan Tours

Raisthlin 09-30-2008 03:42 AM

i really dont think its a good idea no matter what the tours included and IM SURE there is some stuff not included...there always is.

Let me explain.

First, 5000 is a lot of money. Now matter how much you got you have to think about it cost/quality wise. 14 days for 5000$ a bit expensive. It cost me 3.5K$ for a month. And i was throwing money out the window. Of course, you could spend 5k in a single night as well but then again you really wouldnt get a bang for your bucks.

Second, you could easily spend a whole month in Japan with 5k and still have a hard time spending that much. Trust me i was eating at restaurants like 3-4 times a days, doing museums, castles, attractions and all. You probably have some really tricky tourist trap included in that tour. Like those geishas night in gion, ninja outfit and etc. tourist trap

Give us more details, some experts over here might be able to further help you but personally...i really dont think that a14 days for 5000$ all inclusive is a good idea unlesss your sleeping in 4-5 stars hotels, have 3 meals per day and absolutely no entry fee to pay for anything. And it must have a LOTS of stuff to do because i visited like 10 castles, 15 museums, 12 cities, countless attractions, gardens, mountains and much more for a lower cost.

The only good thing about that kind of all inclusive is you might get a translator and guide on site. Then again, i think experiencing a new country by yourself and interacting with people is a much more memorable experience then having a guide tell the waitress what you want for dinner.

Have fun planning your trip. :)

MMM 09-30-2008 04:34 AM

I used to host 3 week tours for high school kids for about $2500. I think that sounds way too expensive.

Nyororin 09-30-2008 05:32 AM

I agree that it sounds outrageously expensive, unless they have some pretty freaking amazing things planned. (Private helicopter flights around the city, a cruise, suite rooms, etc) Something which I highly doubt.

But to be certain, you need to tell us what exactly is included in "all inclusive". Flight, hotel, and food will not eat that much cash. If it`s a very very nice trip with some seriously costly things planned (and that is what you`re expecting) then it may be a value. But, without knowing the details it`s very hard to say.

kaelazors 09-30-2008 07:02 PM

that seems pretty pricey for just 2 weeks =O

emmygirl121 09-30-2008 10:27 PM

Well I don't know that much, But inclusive means, free tours, hotels, food, airlines, basically everything accept keepsakes/tourism items.

I don't know if i will go anymore?

Raisthlin 09-30-2008 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by emmygirl121 (Post 598459)
Well I don't know that much, But inclusive means, free tours, hotels, food, airlines, basically everything accept keepsakes/tourism items.

I don't know if i will go anymore?

inclusive means all of those you mentionned but there is always some stuff not covered like transportations, meals and stuff. I looked at a lot of so called inclusive trip myself only to find out theres always some stuff not covered. Its really not a good quality/price ratio at all.

I usually dont give so straight forwarded advices, especially since we dont have all the details, but just forget about that offer. Im 99.9% sure its not worth it AT ALL since these kind of inclusive trip exist for one purpose only: profits, profits profits and more profits. And the only way there gonna make profits is by giving you less for your money. Its that simple. trust me, i used to plan all inclusive trip to Italy for my college.

Go by yourself, alone or with friends. not only will you do more but it will also be cheaper. Or you could go with 5000$ if you want to and then you could really have a lot of fun or stay longer like 2 months.

Seeya

PS: forgive my spelling, my english aint perfect yet.

emmygirl121 10-01-2008 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Raisthlin (Post 598561)
inclusive means all of those you mentionned but there is always some stuff not covered like transportations, meals and stuff. I looked at a lot of so called inclusive trip myself only to find out theres always some stuff not covered. Its really not a good quality/price ratio at all.

I usually dont give so straight forwarded advices, especially since we dont have all the details, but just forget about that offer. Im 99.9% sure its not worth it AT ALL since these kind of inclusive trip exist for one purpose only: profits, profits profits and more profits. And the only way there gonna make profits is by giving you less for your money. Its that simple. trust me, i used to plan all inclusive trip to Italy for my college.

Go by yourself, alone or with friends. not only will you do more but it will also be cheaper. Or you could go with 5000$ if you want to and then you could really have a lot of fun or stay longer like 2 months.

Seeya

PS: forgive my spelling, my english aint perfect yet.

the thing is i totally would go by myself but im only 14 so
I don't know

Nyororin 10-01-2008 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by emmygirl121 (Post 598459)
Well I don't know that much, But inclusive means, free tours, hotels, food, airlines, basically everything accept keepsakes/tourism items.

I don't know if i will go anymore?

I would look around a bit more. I`m sure you can find somewhere more trustworthy with a more realistic price.

If they`re wanting to charge you that much, but haven`t even made it clear what is included... I definitely wouldn`t trust them.

emmygirl121 10-01-2008 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 598580)
I would look around a bit more. I`m sure you can find somewhere more trustworthy with a more realistic price.

If they`re wanting to charge you that much, but haven`t even made it clear what is included... I definitely wouldn`t trust them.

they will inform me at a later time of all the details, But its through my school, with kids i know, and I am just having mixed feelings.


thanks everyone for your input, I seriously need it

CarleyGee 10-01-2008 12:21 AM

Actually if this is a reliable organization, $5000 is very reasonable.
I've heard of other groups charging more around $7000.

But that was also longer than just two weeks.
I think you could find a better deal elsewhere.

emmygirl121 10-01-2008 12:25 AM

thanks for your input

deathnotegirl 10-01-2008 12:26 AM

it's cheaper to go 9 months instead of going for 14 days
just saying
i mean think about it 14 days really isn't that long
going for 9 months is better...it's about $10,000 but still it's a lot cheaper and you get to stay there longer

emmygirl121 10-01-2008 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by deathnotegirl (Post 598587)
it's cheaper to go 9 months instead of going for 14 days
just saying
i mean think about it 14 days really isn't that long
going for 9 months is better...it's about $10,000 but still it's a lot cheaper and you get to stay there longer

but i can't, honestly I need to go with a toured program, for reasons i am embarrassed about,

I can't live in japan by myself I am 14,

CarleyGee 10-01-2008 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by emmygirl121 (Post 598589)
but i can't, honestly I need to go with a toured program, for reasons i am embarrassed about,

I can't live in japan by myself I am 14,

There are some where you can stay for the summer or the school year, or with a host family!

emmygirl121 10-01-2008 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CarleyGee (Post 598591)
There are some where you can stay for the summer or the school year, or with a host family!

Yeah, but I would have to learn japanese, and that would be so hard for me you have no idea,

deathnotegirl 10-01-2008 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by emmygirl121 (Post 598589)
but i can't, honestly I need to go with a toured program, for reasons i am embarrassed about,

I can't live in japan by myself I am 14,


o ok
but you can go through a special program
like carley you can stay in a host family
there are always different ways
i'm going to england next yr for 9 months and i'm going alone and i'll be 15 but really you can go with a toured program

MMM 10-01-2008 01:34 AM

For a school program this is disturbingly expensive. You obviously aren't going to be eating in the fanciest restaurants or staying at the most expensive hotels. Unless you are going to be flying around Japan to Hokkaido and Kyushu, I'd say rip-off.

Saffy85 10-01-2008 02:36 AM

Gottta agree with MMM (and the other guys posting a rip off) on this one.

To be honest, they will be sending you coach class, putting you up in no more than 3 star accomodation and to save on travel costs etc, they most likely have their own shoddy coach (or connections to get such cheap tansport) for your stay.

If your serious on going with school mates etc, then get one of your parents (or a friends parents) who is reliable and have them plan the trip out for you. Say about $3000 per head (or less depending on what majority can afford). That will give you guys lots of cash to spend on decent accomodation, decent transport and even a fulltime holiday translator (just have him/her sit in the coach untill desperately needed, that way you guys can learn to speak the language as much as possible on your own).

You can have lots of trips and attractions included in the plan, but you should at least bring one adult per 10 kids (that way if you wish to split up for the day, there is someone responsible and mature to look after the smaller groups and ensure your safety, lone students can be easy pickings for criminals and low lifes).

As long as you guys use your head and do not start anything, then you should have a wonderful time at a fraction of the dissapointing travel agent, who is looking to profit on your naiveness and trust in there program being worth the money.

Hope you get to go on your trip on your own terms and have a great time whether you go alone or with friends.

discoiskinky 10-04-2008 12:44 PM

Saffy I went to Japan with a school group when I was your age (a decade ago) and while it was a good experience in general I wish I would have saved that trip for a few years later to experience the country with more freedom and less limitations. Obviously you will be restricted to the itinerary set by your teacher so there is a chance you might not get to see what you want to see and do what you want to do.

My recommendation to you is to start putting money aside now and by the time you get to the age where you can go by yourself, or with friends without a guardian you will be ready to go! But of course, if you really want to go now and you can get the money together by all means do it - there is nothing stopping you from going again later.

Harold 10-04-2008 01:37 PM

I went to Japan for 6 weeks for 2000 dollars and dumped 800 more on buying stuff (mostly things to carry out life normally). You're going to be paying almost twice as much as me and staying there for one third of the time!

kenmei 10-04-2008 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Harold (Post 601312)
I went to Japan for 6 weeks for 2000 dollars and dumped 800 more on buying stuff (mostly things to carry out life normally). You're going to be paying almost twice as much as me and staying there for one third of the time!

no way you could have done that with airfare and acommodations

Saffy85 10-05-2008 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by kenmei (Post 601367)
no way you could have done that with airfare and acommodations

Depends, Airfair is roughly £900 (about $1500 at curent exchange rate) from the UK (probly cheaper in the US since it is closer to Japan). If staying with someone or a family it would be much cheaper than a hotel, so it can be done I guess. Plus prices were dirt cheaper in 2000 than they are today.

emmygirl121 10-05-2008 03:56 AM

But I'm deaf so my options aren't as open, I know on this trip i will have an ability to comunicate

do people in japan have a japanese form of sign language?

Nyororin 10-05-2008 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by kenmei (Post 601367)
no way you could have done that with airfare and acommodations

I went to Japan only spending $1200 on airfare, and bringing $500 with me.

For 3 months. You can pull off quite a bit if you`re determined and up to a challenge.

Nyororin 10-05-2008 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by emmygirl121 (Post 601774)
But I'm deaf so my options aren't as open, I know on this trip i will have an ability to comunicate

do people in japan have a japanese form of sign language?

Yes, there is a Japanese sign language system. It overlaps the US system in some places, and is different in others. I don`t know how widespread knowledge of sign language is, but there is closed captioning and news programs broadcast in sign language or with a sign language inset.

To be completely honest, as sign language is quite similar between the two systems, you may actually have an advantage when it comes to communication.

emmygirl121 10-05-2008 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 601788)
Yes, there is a Japanese sign language system. It overlaps the US system in some places, and is different in others. I don`t know how widespread knowledge of sign language is, but there is closed captioning and news programs broadcast in sign language or with a sign language inset.

To be completely honest, as sign language is quite similar between the two systems, you may actually have an advantage when it comes to communication.

cool,

because it would be really hard for me to learn Japanese, I can speak a little english, but mostly i sign,
so I would just have to go with a program that has translators?

james1254 10-06-2008 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by emmygirl121 (Post 598581)
they will inform me at a later time of all the details, But its through my school, with kids i know, and I am just having mixed feelings.


thanks everyone for your input, I seriously need it

seems like bit much for a school trip even to japan. I'm going for 10 days with my school for 1600 mind you its homestay but 3400 extra seems a bit excessive just for staying in hotels.

Eiri 10-06-2008 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by emmygirl121 (Post 597730)
Today I was offered a 14 day almost all inclusive trip to Tokyo japan?
It will cost me 5,000 dollars to go. I will have to quit a couple of my extra curricular activities to help pay for it, I will be going with people to people,

Is it a good deal? Is it worth me working a ton to raise the money?
could I go for any cheaper, at my age?
comments and suggestions please :P

People to People? and they want to send you to JAPAN? YES GO!!!!! My cousin was offered a trip to the U.K. by them and she went and had a great time, you should do it, as for raising the money, my cousin got a few sponsors to help, so you could try doing the same, but WOMAN GO!!!!!

kenmei 10-06-2008 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Saffy85 (Post 601765)
Depends, Airfair is roughly £900 (about $1500 at curent exchange rate) from the UK (probly cheaper in the US since it is closer to Japan). If staying with someone or a family it would be much cheaper than a hotel, so it can be done I guess. Plus prices were dirt cheaper in 2000 than they are today.

wich is why i said "with accomodations" :mtongue:

obviously it's cheaper living with a friend or family memeber :D and living on $500 wouldn't be too enjoyable, but yes it is do able

kenmei 10-06-2008 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 601786)
I went to Japan only spending $1200 on airfare, and bringing $500 with me.

For 3 months. You can pull off quite a bit if you`re determined and up to a challenge.

with accomodations? also, it'd be hard to travel on that which would make things quite dull for that amount of time. seems pretty amazing to me

emmygirl121 10-06-2008 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Eiri (Post 602900)
People to People? and they want to send you to JAPAN? YES GO!!!!! My cousin was offered a trip to the U.K. by them and she went and had a great time, you should do it, as for raising the money, my cousin got a few sponsors to help, so you could try doing the same, but WOMAN GO!!!!!

thanks im really considering it :)

emmygirl121 11-10-2008 11:26 PM

I'm doing it,
totally and surely

here is more information

Land of the Rising Sun

kenmei 11-11-2008 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by emmygirl121 (Post 625178)
I'm doing it,
totally and surely

here is more information

Land of the Rising Sun

congrats and good luck saving !

you'll have a blast!

emmygirl121 11-11-2008 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kenmei (Post 625226)
congrats and good luck saving !

you'll have a blast!

All i have to save is for spending money,
I got sponsored by two local foundations, :]
YEAAHHH!

SakanaMidori 11-15-2008 06:02 PM

Lol!!!!!!
I'm happy for you and totally jealous!

I was offered the same experience at my school at your age(ha! Last year) and I couldn't go, because I had another trip already planned(and this one was free). But I'm kind of glad I didn't go because it would have been with A) stupid rich kids and B) Japanese people who'd think I was some dumb anime-obsessor who didn't care about the true culture of Japan.

And it was $5000 for me too. I don't have that kind of money. But thank you everyone, it's very nice to know I've been totally ignorant and didn't know you can get to Japan that much cheaper!

emmygirl121 11-15-2008 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SakanaMidori (Post 628126)
Lol!!!!!!
I'm happy for you and totally jealous!

I was offered the same experience at my school at your age(ha! Last year) and I couldn't go, because I had another trip already planned(and this one was free). But I'm kind of glad I didn't go because it would have been with A) stupid rich kids and B) Japanese people who'd think I was some dumb anime-obsessor who didn't care about the true culture of Japan.

And it was $5000 for me too. I don't have that kind of money. But thank you everyone, it's very nice to know I've been totally ignorant and didn't know you can get to Japan that much cheaper!

well because i am impaired, i wrote letters to local foundation, now i have around seven months to make 1,000 dollars, and spending money.

sorry that didn't really flow, local foundations paid around 5,000$ of my tuition, it was a big help

Wagamama 11-22-2008 11:16 AM

Your 14..So what of it?Grab a couple of older people u know,(friends,neighbours,family,Relatives,schoolmates) and go with them to Japan,U dont neccessarily have to go alone,By the way i am spending 2.5 K SGD For 10 days in Japan and i expect myself to live the life.however see it i really doubt 5000 is worth the money,Even if the 'inclusive trip' ur talking about includes expensive dine outs and what not,You gotta immense urself into the middle class to really appreciate essence of any country

emmygirl121 11-24-2008 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wagamama (Post 631340)
Your 14..So what of it?Grab a couple of older people u know,(friends,neighbours,family,Relatives,schoolmates) and go with them to Japan,U dont neccessarily have to go alone,By the way i am spending 2.5 K SGD For 10 days in Japan and i expect myself to live the life.however see it i really doubt 5000 is worth the money,Even if the 'inclusive trip' ur talking about includes expensive dine outs and what not,You gotta immense urself into the middle class to really appreciate essence of any country

I am 14 and hearing impared, i need to go with someone who can sign, and we can't afford to send my whole family over there, this is the best situation, i could do


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