Gothlic Lolita Questions
 

i like the gothic lolita style its not like the cute dolly with a teddy bear look because tthey just dont tickle ma fancy i think tehre cute but would not go neer that but my friend is a gothic lolita and shes 22 shes cute and all and i like her style but most web definition of lolita is so bad like saying :YOUNG" girls who seduce men so that kinda makes me feel perverted?? what do you guys think?

u shouldnt bother so much about whats other ppl think about it. Just be yourself.

not at all dear.

Doesnt sound pervy to meeee ^-^

yeah coz i said to my mate that is like the look and think its really hot and i think he got me mixed up with the little dolly girl looking 1 i mean thats cute but not "hot" and it does bother me because i dont want people thinking im some kinda pedo

Ok.

Arent you getting the STYLE "Lolita" and the book confused?

the book is very old and it involves a young lady seducing an older man, there are a couple movie versions also. It was called "Lolita"....

no im not but most people do thats what im getting at because when i say i like the lolita style people look at me weird but dont worry im over it fuck them. sorry about the post im just insecure

if you don't mind me askin...but...what country do you live in? i may have more answers for you depending where you live

Australia,

Don't worry about it ~ !

It sounds like moe love to me, which is totally okay ~ ! Lolita is totally cute.

....did Australia go through the victorian era? if not then that's a reason why. Australia is somewhat isolated from a few cultures so...that kind of makes it difficult for anyone to want to express something different. (some of this could be affected by movies from years ago and folks believed the movie till this day and will continue to think down on it)

if not the above then all that is left for me to say that most of those people are stubborn and stuck up and wouldn't give a damn of anything different.

yeah lol we dident were all convicts with no culture XD

well that kind of answers it all. if i were you...i would try very hard to go to another country

yeah im going to go on holiday in japan for abit then go to england because im half english, i can live there :)

well that's great! england is like the old home of victorian clothing and japan being the home of lolita makes it even better for you. i'm from north america but i don't get to travel alot. japan and england are some of the major places i want to go to.

you could be a giant pumpkin and some guys might like that.....
you should like what you like, as long as YOUR intentions arent bad,
then it shouldnt matter.

I think you should insert a couple of commas and periods in that paragraph (sentence?).

" 'Cause... damn."

Sometimes getting the point across isn't the only point... In any case, it's just a pain in the ass to read an unpunctuated document when it has perfect spelling and otherwise perfect grammar.

Honestly, I don't typically bug people about this kind of stuff online because I realize that most people on bbs's and chats are just lazy (I know I used to be). This time, though.... I just had to say something, 'cause that was bad.

Meh, I don't wanna make a big deal out of it. It was just a suggestion. He did, afterall, ask me what I was thinking :ywave: .

good point.

Australia during the victorian period was still a "prison" colony, I thought.
maybe im wrong but Im fairly sure- (goes off to research)

yeah, and there was no commas and periods because i was working with my boss right next to me =S.

Yes you are perverted.

Why do you care? im sure people who know you don't think you're perverted and thats all that matters really.

its perverted but thats ok some people actuall like that!!!

maybe i'm disturbed but lolita has a TOTALY different connotation in america...perverted as it may be

You think so? I've never heard or read anything different for Lolita in America...

Technically speaking it might be considered a perversion. Just ask yourself the following.

1. Do my actions hurt anyone else?
2. Do my actions harm myself?

If you feel the answer to both is no, then you're doing just fine.

classic logic. Love it.

I say Yes! ( question? What was the question again?):confused:

There IS a difference between Lolita FASHION (key word here) and 'Lolita'.. But I see you already know that XD

Lolita is actually originally a female NAME. It comes from a word which means 'young girl' (that's most likely why the Japanese chose this word for the fashion) and it's one of the forms of the names Dolores and Lola. There are still people with the name Lolita and I think it's highly offensive to them to be compared to some STUPID book.

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Why does being compared to a classic piece of literature offend you???
Far better than being compared to some bubblehead celebrity.
Or being named after a relative you dont even like.

People make associations with every name they hear. For example, Ive only had bad experiences with people named "Steven" so when I meet a new Steven I am instantly anxious and thinking of all the past ones who were morons. (This is a fictional example btw but people DO think like this).

Yes theres a HUGE difference between the Nabokov story and the FASHION style and I really wonder how many people actually link the Fashion style with the book, as its not exactly a novel read in school or anything.

The cultural associations with Nabokov's novel would be vague at best, I think- at least in North America. I dont know about what classics people read in Europe where education is more thorough, or elsewhere (hehehe I can just smell the lynching over that comment...oh well)

How many people on here have actually HONESTLY read Nabokov's "Lolita"?
And not just seen the myriad of so-so films based on it.




Its a lot like Gothic, in terms of re-defining a word.

How many people hear the word "Goth" nowadays and think of the barbarians sacking Rome? Not many....

Or hear "Gothic" and think of architecture and Walpole's mansion?

*shrugs*

Quote: " Why does being compared to a classic piece of literature offend you???
Far better than being compared to some bubblehead celebrity.
Or being named after a relative you dont even like.

People make associations with every name they hear. For example, Ive only had bad experiences with people named "Steven" so when I meet a new Steven I am instantly anxious and thinking of all the past ones who were morons. (This is a fictional example btw but people DO think like this).

Yes theres a HUGE difference between the Nabokov story and the FASHION style and I really wonder how many people actually link the Fashion style with the book, as its not exactly a novel read in school or anything.

The cultural associations with Nabokov's novel would be vague at best, I think- at least in North America. I dont know about what classics people read in Europe where education is more thorough, or elsewhere (hehehe I can just smell the lynching over that comment...oh well)

How many people on here have actually HONESTLY read Nabokov's "Lolita"?
And not just seen the myriad of so-so films based on it. "

@ gloomth: Lol, I don't know, ask the people with that name why it offends them XD Did you think I was talking about myself 8o ? No, no, my name's not Lolita, ha ha XDD

This one user on the egl community on Livejournal has a teacher with the name Lolita and one day the girl went to class dressed in Lolita and when she named the fashion, her teacher got angry, lol! Apparently she has some kind of complex with the name and I think that's just silly, personally 8/

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I'm from Australia, don't see much lolita here, only in the city... sometimes! lol

People still stare at me when I dress in Gothic Lolita xD

Many of my generation of Americans look upon the term "Lolita" negatively because of the 1962 movie of the novel. With the subject matter being pedophilia, what else would you expect? And that is where the term for the clothing style came from, so one should expect a bit of disapproval from maintstream adults, especially in western culture.

Personally I try to ignore its origin and just appreciate the fashion. But its sort of like asking someone into sado-masochism to ignore the kid walking through the mall in a slave's collar. Its difficult to disassociate the fashion from its history ..... unless you were born after the history became mere fashion and wasn't taught it first.

And yes, I read the book after I saw the movie.

goth loli all the way!
 

I'm a goth loli! It's nothing to do with that perverted book at all. It's what's known as 'Wasei Eigo' in Japanese. It means it has other english connotations which are not used in Japanese and are in no way asscoiated with that connotation!

It's not at all to do with being seductive to men, it's about expressing yourself through a fashion and being 'cute!'. Here in England, all the gothic lolitas I've met do it for the same reason me and my friends do it. Because it's cute and looks cool!

It's all about culture and fereedom of expression not social connotations!

remember- wasei eigo!

Indeed!!!
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