*sigh*

This topic was actually surprising me at first, with the reasonable discussion and lack of bashing. Unfortunately that didn`t last.

Please, move on from this or the thread will be closed.

If you read all my topics/replies, you will see that I make a big deal out of something which seems "insignificant". That's what I do mostly.

She's by no means connected to me. And I'm a guy bth.



Do you follow standards? If so, apparently she does NOT match that standards. Now guess what I mean by this.

Yet again, mostly doesn't mean the entire world. Or are you going to vouch for 6 billions?

@Nyororin

Are you saying we are bashing eachother?

This seems a healthy discussion. And we are actually on topic.

You keep saying this, but I'm a Lolita and a cosplayer, and I still think it's awful. And even if I wasn't, it doesn't mean my opinion is any less valid.

It's not my 'sense of fashion,' it's the fact that I personally feel it doesn't suit her. I never said because I think it is makes it so. I said I respect that your opinion might be different, but I'm also allowed to feel it looks silly while you might not.

So therefore, we agree that our opinions are different, and other people might think differently about her outfit.

So this is a dead end. Let's move on. :)

Yes. But keep in mind that just because you think so, it doesn't necessarily make it. Same goes to the other side of the coin.

And to finish it, I actually find it ridiculous. But I felt the need to be white knighting her.

Edit: But hey, don't misunderstand white knighting with trolling.

Early on in this discussion I agreed that Lolita is a potentially attractive look and I don't feel weight/build has much bearing on it.

But personally, outside of an anime convention (as in on the street). I think anyone over the age of about 5 or 6 look pretty ridiculous in the "style". Frankly I don't consider it a style; it is a costume. That is a subtle difference to some, but not to me.

I'm not sure what you mean by "standards" under the circumstances. All I know is I think it looks ludicrous. (And as a kind of nod to the main topic this thread started on, I might add that it has little to do with her "build" and more with the rest of the picture.)

And I'd really appreciate it if you stopped trying to tell me what I'm saying - I already know what I'm saying because I'm saying it. ;)

I haven't tried to "vouch for" or speak for the entire world population, I simply meant most people in this thread (or maybe, in this forum) and I've based that claim on observing replies to that post. I think you're pretty much the only one yet to find much positive things about the whole deal and I just reacted at your seeming attempt to discredit "our" opinions for a wide variety of reasons - most or all of which were bad ones. :)

Now I have to admit I kinda like discussing random things (I have a shocking confession to make: fashion in general interests me as much as it does an average jellyfish) "for fun" once in a while, but I think I'm gonna drop the matter here.

I'm not intending this or anything else I've said as "bashing" (just stating my opinion) and I don't see how it can be construed as such, but I do see that it's kinda... far out from the thread's original topic, so I think this discussion either needs to end or get its own. :D

Just out of interest, would you consider other subcultures to be 'costumes,' such as goth, emo, punk etc? If you don't, then what would you say the difference is between these subcultures and the Lolita subculture?

Judging purely on the frequency of it being seen in the public, those three costume-based styles are more "accepted" than lolita. This is from a purely intellectual viewpoint as I have not see any of the four fashion styles in public myself.