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iluvbleach 02-25-2010 08:53 PM

Chopsticks or a knife and fork?
 
Which one do you prefer? I cant really choose because there is only certain stuff i can eat with chopsticks XD But i would like to know what you prefer using.

KyyO 02-25-2010 09:00 PM

My hands :). Just kidding, chopsticks, I like to keep it authentic :D.

meggintosh 02-25-2010 11:37 PM

chopsticks deff.
its all a matter of practicing, especially with things like rice.

PockyMePink 02-26-2010 02:20 AM

Depends on what I'm eating.

Undertherose25 03-02-2010 05:42 AM

Fork.

I'm hopeless...my 1/2 Korean Fiance and my full Korean friend tried to teach me how to use chopsticks and I fail.

Mrowr 03-02-2010 06:44 AM

It honestly depends on what I'm eating- if it's Japanese or Chinese, I'd most likely use chopsticks. Plus, using chopsticks makes what you're eating seems more tastier IMO. ;)

sarasi 03-02-2010 07:06 AM

Depends on the food. You will never see a Japanese person eating spaghetti or curry and rice with chopsticks, for a good reason.

Yamha 03-02-2010 01:15 PM

I like to eat with chopsticks, because then the food doesn't taste metal, but it's difficult with the food we eat at home, so I usually just use regular knife and fork.

StueyT 03-02-2010 02:04 PM

I love using chopsticks when in Japan. I seem to be able to use them pretty much flawlessly even though I rarely used them before I first went to Japan. A natural knack?

TalnSG 03-02-2010 09:41 PM

Saturday afternoon my cousins from Atlanta were rather amused when I had to go in search of chopsticks to eat my lunch. I tend to eat even non-Asian food with chopsticks when given a choice. I usually have a pair in my purse, but I had only grabbed my wallet & phone on the way to pick them up at the airport.

What had them smirking was that we were at a Chinese buffet!!!
The staff assumed that white people need silverware. :mad:

thcuteness 03-02-2010 10:33 PM

mmm it really depends on my mood, and what im eating. But usually i perfer chopsticks.

yuujirou 03-12-2010 07:48 AM

humm... i'd say that i prefer my 180mm ebony handle moribashi =3
w/ a retail value of $130 ^_^


HungryForRamen 03-12-2010 10:21 AM

I like to use chopsticks if the oppertunity presents itself.

SHAD0W 03-12-2010 11:08 AM

I can use all 3 so it depeds on the meal :)

My first post in a long time btw - hello JF!

TalnSG 03-12-2010 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yuujirou (Post 803772)
humm... i'd say that i prefer my 180mm ebony handle moribashi =3
w/ a retail value of $130 ^_^


Stop it, Yuujirou!!! You're making me have hot flashes.

I swore I was not going to add to my collection of chopsticks and you went and sabotaged me.:rolleyes:

metalmark666 03-13-2010 07:48 AM

If I'm not in a rush, it is nice to eat with chopsticks. If I'm hungry, I give up on the knife and fork and just settle for the shovel!! :D

AlchemicSoi 03-13-2010 04:39 PM

If its supposed to be eaten with chopsticks, it gets eaten with chopsticks.;)

haru93 03-13-2010 04:46 PM

well it actually depends on what i'm eating,
but if i were to eat japanese food i'd use chopsticks <3

pumpum 03-13-2010 06:18 PM

Knife & Fork...actually just fork.

Maybe the question should be "which is the actual easiest to use" because then of course the fork is easier. The difference between chopsticks and knife & fork = evolution

Cocomic 03-14-2010 07:42 PM

For japanese food?
Only chopsticks, of course! :D
It's much more authentic.

Cocomic 03-14-2010 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pumpum (Post 803915)
The difference between chopsticks and knife & fork = evolution

This is not entirely correct.
The Japanese used to eat with chopsticks much earlier than the Europeans used knife and fork.
Therefore, there weren't as many lethal deseases in Asia as in Europe, especially during the Middle Age.

I'd rather call it a belated civilisation :-P

basumarmi1510 03-14-2010 08:33 PM

Specially it depends on what I am gonna eating actually.......

However, chopsticks deff will be more preferable to me.
Thanks for your nice post...........

seiki 03-15-2010 03:28 AM

If I have chopsticks and the food is chopstick friendly.

yuujirou 03-15-2010 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pumpum (Post 803915)
Knife & Fork...actually just fork.

Maybe the question should be "which is the actual easiest to use" because then of course the fork is easier. The difference between chopsticks and knife & fork = evolution

both utensils can be used crudely or eloquently.
however, chopsticks do require a little more skill to utilise effectively than silverware.

honestly, i have no true preference as i prefer to use the ware that's suitable and respectable to the cuisine.
ex. butcher a finely cooked whole fish with a knife and fork, or delicately pick away the flesh with chopsticks?
or slice through an 8oz rib-eye with a knife and fork with ease or exert pitiful amounts of force to unsuccessfully portion the same cut to bite-size pieces >.>'

TalnSG 03-16-2010 09:10 PM

Normally I would agree with pairing the utensils to the cuisine being consumed. However, the past few decades have seen the standard western fork made with progressively rounder and duller tines; to the extent that many will not pierce a lettuce leaf. Whatever happened to forks really having tines? Were there too many accidental stabbings from running with table forks that now they have to resemble the points of scissors made for pre-schoolers?

Oops, didn't meant to unleash one of my pet peeves. I will just go back to my ceasar salad and chopsticks. They really do work better for salads than forks these days.

sarasi 03-16-2010 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pumpum (Post 803915)
Knife & Fork...actually just fork.

Maybe the question should be "which is the actual easiest to use" because then of course the fork is easier. The difference between chopsticks and knife & fork = evolution

There is no "of course" about this at all. That a fork is easier to use is just your opinion and plenty of Japanese people might disagree with you. It can also depend on the food- like TalnSG I find it way easier to eat a lettuce salad with chopsticks than a fork because the lettuce will move around on a fork (if you can even get it onto the fork) but is more controllable with chopsticks.

And forks did not evolve from chopsticks- when in European history did people use chopsticks for them to have evolved into a fork?

Naedora 03-17-2010 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarasi (Post 804482)
There is no "of course" about this at all. That a fork is easier to use is just your opinion and plenty of Japanese people might disagree with you. It can also depend on the food- like TalnSG I find it way easier to eat a lettuce salad with chopsticks than a fork because the lettuce will move around on a fork (if you can even get it onto the fork) but is more controllable with chopsticks.

And forks did not evolve from chopsticks- when in European history did people use chopsticks for them to have evolved into a fork?

The chopsticks came from Asia, i believe China, and Japanese adopted the customs from the land they came from.

sarasi 03-18-2010 01:37 AM

Yes, I know that. From China, via Korea, to Japan, most likely. My point is that for chopsticks to have "evolved" into forks, people in Europe would have had to use chopsticks first, and later forks, with some utensil that was an in-between stage as well- that's the meaning of "evolve".

yuujirou 03-18-2010 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarasi (Post 804666)
Yes, I know that. From China, via Korea, to Japan, most likely. My point is that for chopsticks to have "evolved" into forks, people in Europe would have had to use chopsticks first, and later forks, with some utensil that was an in-between stage as well- that's the meaning of "evolve".

if you trace history way back... i believe europeans used to eat w/ knives >.>'''
like... hunting knives, lolz

the chopsticks were actually used first by royalty for a number of eras before they eventually descended into the lower classes of society.
>.>''
this is in japan, of course. I have no idea as to the role of chopsticks in chinese history >.>''

TalnSG 03-21-2010 01:55 AM

Evolution of a utensil usually includes not only having pre-dated the use fo the untensil in question, but the replacement of it for common usage.

Not only did western flatware not succeed the use of chopsticks as common utensils in western culture, chopsticks have certainly not been replaced in any culture where they were ever in common use.

To even suggest that chopsticks are archaic, or that european flatware is an evolutionary advance over them, is not only incorrect, but hints of european arrogance.

And before anyone goes there, check your history before you cite the use of spoons or ladels. You will find their first documented use is not in western culture.

hadron 04-06-2010 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metalmark666 (Post 803868)
If I'm not in a rush, it is nice to eat with chopsticks. If I'm hungry, I give up on the knife and fork and just settle for the shovel!! :D

shovel :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by TalnSG (Post 805088)
I will just go back to my ceasar salad and chopsticks. They really do work better for salads than forks these days.

yes fork is not good at bending leaves. :)) but eating steak or sausage would be funny bit with chopsticks, wouldn't?

Quote:

Originally Posted by TalnSG (Post 805088)
To even suggest that chopsticks are archaic, or that european flatware is an evolutionary advance over them, is not only incorrect, but hints of european arrogance.

That is a good point. Is it actually considered arrogant eating with fork in Japan? What would ppl look at someone who comes to a restaurant and bring out his own fork to eat?

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anyway, whether you eat with one or another, or with hands, your meal was most likely prepared using knife and spoon :P

Oni 04-06-2010 10:54 PM

I use chopsticks whenever the opprotunity presents itself. I find them easier to use eating, except when it's like a steak or something...

Aota 04-06-2010 10:56 PM

Depends on the food. Completely.

yuujirou 04-07-2010 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aota (Post 807341)
Depends on the food. Completely.

the food?
or the preparation of? o.O""

eat a cow w/ a big ass knife....
eat a steak w/ a knife and fork....
eat steak cubes w/ hashi....
>.>''
same food eh? x]

Slykaz1 04-07-2010 04:05 AM

I eat noodles and rice and any small itemed "prepared" food with chopsticks.
And fork with "prepared" meat that I have to cut in smaller pieces.
I have yet to learn to eat an egg roll with chopsticks.

YukisUke 04-25-2010 10:57 PM

It depends. I prefer chopsticks when it comes to asian dishes. I like to keep it traditional. If it's a dish like steak or something, I'll use a fork and knife.

seiki 04-26-2010 01:02 AM

Could someone tell me a dish in which using chop sticks is easier to eat than using a fork?

RickOShay 04-26-2010 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seiki (Post 809815)
Could someone tell me a dish in which using chop sticks is easier to eat than using a fork?

Ramen, udon, soba, rice, Japanese style yaki-niku, sashimi, sushi, (though hands are the traditional method) shabu shabu, sukiyaki, shoga-yaki, gyoza. Shall I go on?

Aota 05-04-2010 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yuujirou (Post 807358)
the food?
or the preparation of? o.O""

eat a cow w/ a big ass knife....
eat a steak w/ a knife and fork....
eat steak cubes w/ hashi....
>.>''
same food eh? x]

Lol. Hamburger=hands. Steak=knife and fork. Steak cubes=chopsticks, maybe. I've never had steak cubes. I suppose the preparation of, if ya wanna get technical. :P

Zongo 05-04-2010 10:49 AM

It depends what I am eating. For a lot of food knife and fork/fork and spoon is way easier. Big chop sticks are awesome for cooking though. Great for turning stuff over etc. Sent my mom a pair and she loves them too.


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