JapanForum.com

JapanForum.com (https://www.japanforum.com/forum/)
-   Japanese Language Help (https://www.japanforum.com/forum/japanese-language-help/)
-   -   Test Yourself - Learn Japanese Together! (https://www.japanforum.com/forum/japanese-language-help/21524-test-yourself-learn-japanese-together.html)

Theron44 12-19-2008 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chryuop (Post 646810)
Ladies and Gentelmen...I am going to make fun of myself!
But I will try to explain it...
隠す (かくす) is a transitive verb and means "to hide". Thus as a transitive verb it requires the を for what it is hidden. I wouldn't see it as "hiding from something", but more as "hiding your self/your body to someone/something". If you think it this way 雨に would represent what you are hiding from.
Always in my opinion (that I repeat might be as well be wrong) if the rain is the place where you are hiding from something or someone, than it would become a place where the action takes place, thus requiring で.
So the way I see it is...
私は雨に自分を隠す I hide myself from the rain.
私は雨で彼に自分を隠す I hide myself from him in the rain.

But wait someone with more knowledge than me to confirm or correct me.

Yes this looks right to me...
を- is a direct object marker 私はてがみを書きました。 I wrote a letter. Letter being the direct object to wrote.
に- is a marker for direction ex. だれに... どこにいきますか? To whom... Where are (you) going?
で- is a marker of an action took place. 私はとしょかんでべんきょしました。
If it was を instead of で, It would say I studied the library. I wrote it simply without advanced Kanji.
が- i don't really remember, but I use it before adjectives. 私ののどがいたい。My throat hurts. That is as far my memory goes after 2 years of Japanese courses and self study.

CaptainThunder 12-19-2008 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theron44 (Post 647604)
Yes this looks right to me...
を- is a direct object marker 私はてがみを書きました。 I wrote a letter. Letter being the direct object to wrote.
に- is a marker for direction ex. だれに... どこにいきますか? To whom... Where are (you) going?
で- is a marker of an action took place. 私はとしょかんでべんきょしました。
If it was を instead of で, It would say I studied the library. I wrote it simply without advanced Kanji.
が- i don't really remember, but I use it before adjectives. 私ののどがいたい。My throat hurts. That is as far my memory goes after 2 years of Japanese courses and self study.

Well, the grammar being discussed is a bit above "を means this and に means this", but Ok :D

Nagoyankee 12-19-2008 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theron44 (Post 647604)
Yes this looks right to me...
を- is a direct object marker 私はてがみを書きました。 I wrote a letter. Letter being the direct object to wrote.
に- is a marker for direction ex. だれに... どこにいきますか? To whom... Where are (you) going?
で- is a marker of an action took place. 私はとしょかんでべんきょしました。
If it was を instead of で, It would say I studied the library. I wrote it simply without advanced Kanji.
が- i don't really remember, but I use it before adjectives. 私ののどがいたい。My throat hurts. That is as far my memory goes after 2 years of Japanese courses and self study.

べんきょ > べんきょう
私ののどがいたい <---- We NEVER say this. We say のどがいたい.

Sinestra 12-19-2008 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHAD0W (Post 647346)
じっつはそのサイトがつかいませんでした。。

How long exactly have you been studying kana for? I have a degree, a college course and 2 jobs to rush around after and I managed to get kana down in less than 2 weeks with only 20mins study a day.

My memory is god aweful.. so if I can do it, you can.

I started a long time ago but due to work and various other things there just was not enough time to study Kana hell i didnt even have time to sleep for the past year and half I was hardly ever home or even in my home state. Well iv started back up again and im going from scratch. My memory is awful as well. I think i have to find the right way for me to learn it. Its not like when i learned Latin or German. I know the best way for me to learn is to immures myself in it. In other words put me in a situation where i have no choice but to learn it.

But im determined and i have made progress over the past days and half so we shall see. If i need help i will just ask some guys.

Ningyou 12-19-2008 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keaton421 (Post 646383)
So give me a sentence using はじめまして that's not a first-time meeting.

EDIT: Still waiting...

Well, that's what it's used for is when you meet someone, but you made it sound like it's only a phrase that certain people should use and that's not the case.

By the way, you don't have to get so offensive for no reason. Don't take yourself so seriously.

Theron44 12-19-2008 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nagoyankee (Post 647650)
べんきょ > べんきょう
私ののどがいたい <---- We NEVER say this. We say のどがいたい.

sorry I actually knew that. My mistake.:)

Oni 12-19-2008 04:06 AM

I'm actually learning something from this... I can only read a certain amount of romanji, but this is starting to help me learn the kana.

Keaton421 12-19-2008 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ningyou (Post 647678)
Well, that's what it's used for is when you meet someone, but you made it sound like it's only a phrase that certain people should use and that's not the case.

By the way, you don't have to get so offensive for no reason. Don't take yourself so seriously.

I'm not being offensive. I honestly want to know if it can be used for things other than meeting people, because you said it could be and I've never heard it before.

Samuraizr0 12-19-2008 03:04 PM

kore wa yoi kangae desu!!!

SHAD0W 12-19-2008 03:50 PM

Offical Question Number 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Samuraizr0 (Post 647839)
kore wa yoi kangae desu!!!

Practise kana.


Anyways, since your wanting me to turn it up a notch, I invite you to watch and translate this video as Offical Question Number 2 :p



Also, its a good laugh at how old this video is. For natives, its a REALLY good laugh at how old this video is :p

Off topic -> Late 70's? What film is it that they are watching and whats that game they are playing? *dorama*


All times are GMT. The time now is 02:20 AM.

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC6