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04-17-2009, 02:34 PM
Hey guys,
If any of you are having difficulties with learning the kanji stroke order, i reccomend you to visit these two websites: Yamasa Online Kanji Dictionary http://kakijun.main.jp/ I hope you to leave a feedback regarding them..... 
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04-17-2009, 04:29 PM
Stroke sequence is important if you want to learn/write Japanese... as opposed to draw it like a pictograph.
Besides, if you use a Kanji-jiten, it'll be expecting you to use the proper stroke sequence for character recognition.
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04-17-2009, 05:18 PM
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 猿も木から落ちる
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04-17-2009, 05:24 PM
I have noticed that for some kanji, by following the stroke order I can actually draw them pretty good. Strangely for those kanji if I don't follow the stroke order they come out scale. For some kanji really doesn't matter...and some kanji will never come out good, no matter what order I follow, like 夏 which I really hate
 暗闇の中 歩くしかねぇ everything’s gonna be okay 恐れることねぇ 辛い時こそ胸を張れ
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04-17-2009, 06:18 PM
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04-17-2009, 06:48 PM
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You don't know Japanese. You haven't lived in Japan. On another thread, you gave someone visa "advice" that could have gotten them stuck outside of Japan with no hope for re-entry. You denounce textbooks and conventional learning methods despite the fact that you know about 0.5% of the Japanese language. You told someone they could get a job flipping burgers in Japan. You told someone the "best" way to live in Japan is to go on a tourist visa and throw down a ton of money on guesthouses. Stop. Saying that stroke order doesn't matter proves that your knowledge of the language and how to learn it is nothing. Try reading someone's handwriting who doesn't use correct stroke order. 99% of the time it's an awkward mess.
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04-17-2009, 06:48 PM
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When we write kanji in cursive style (or semi-cursive style), to follow correct stroke order is very important. In wrong order, characters will be unreadable by deviation from ordinary shape. --- "kakijun" website is so fantastic! There must be enough kanji characters for our writing in lifetime. I (Japanese) browsed several characters having rather many strokes, and could not even read some of those.
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04-17-2009, 06:56 PM
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I guess it's just me, but I find improperly written Kanji just as legible as perfect ones. And I'm dyslexic, so... I don't know. From the Kanji that I do know (which is only about a 3rd graders) I can read despite how they're written. As long as they're within reason, you know what I mean. No need to try and bash someone based on your individual preferences. 99% of the time it's an awkward mess.  Nice edit there. I won't even acknowledge most of that ranting. lol But yes, I said "one of the" easiest way of staying in Japan short-term (less that one year) would be staying in a guest house, which cost about $500 a month. Please inform me of a longer and cheaper stay, I beg of you. I said on a spousal visa, basically the best job you will get is a low-paying one. And I used "burger-flipping" as an example, if you will. I'll gladly link you the post if you'd like? Don't get so worked up, kid. LOL Also, since I'm on a roll of degrading myself by wasting 5 minutes of my life on you, I will elaborate on what I mean with the Kanji thing, as that post was a little confusing, and not all what I mean. I guess I can see where some confusion would occur, when writing more complex Kanji improperly, such as 話, 読, 書, 機, 季. I can see there might be some confusion, such as mistaking them for other Kanji, etc. But with no-brainer 1st grade Kanji like 日, 円, 金 for God's Sake, stroke order really doesn't matter. (To me) That's all I mean, bro. 猿も木から落ちる
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