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Suki 04-22-2011 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 862605)
My point is that plot twists are a staple of the sci-fi genre. Inception is, literally, multi-layered, but I don't think you could say it has too much of a twisted plot.

My point is, to me, sci-fi + a twisted plot = sleepiness.

It's twisted in the sense that you have to be really into the movie to know where it's going and what to expect, it's the kind of movie you cannot go take a pee then come back and not feel like you've missed a bunch of important details.

I surely wouldn't place it anywhere near any Top10.

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Originally Posted by myk
They haven't made a movie that I would really call "great" in the last ten years or so, save for Tarantino films.

I strongly disagree.

Also, I share Bobby's opinion regarding Inglorious Basterds. It lacks what Tarantino's best at: letting the audience know what a character's like through random conversations they have with one another. The opening scene though was really good, loved every second of it.

MMM 04-23-2011 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Suki (Post 862676)
My point is, to me, sci-fi + a twisted plot = sleepiness.

That was the point of my list earlier. Plot twists are a staple of the sci-fi genre. I am not saying you have to like it, I am just saying they are not two tastes that don't taste great together.

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Originally Posted by Suki (Post 862676)
It's twisted in the sense that you have to be really into the movie to know where it's going and what to expect, it's the kind of movie you cannot go take a pee then come back and not feel like you've missed a bunch of important details.

The first time I saw it I was really into the movie, but I didn't know where it was going, and I didn't know what to expect.

Any movie you can take a pee break in and not miss anything is a movie that is poorly edited.

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Originally Posted by Suki (Post 862676)
I surely wouldn't place it anywhere near any Top10.

I didn't and I wouldn't.

BobbyCooper 04-23-2011 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 862675)
I haven't heard of anyone placing in the top 10 movies of all time. Can you post links?

IMDb Top 250

Also the Dark Knight should have a much lower rating too in my mind. There was nothing special about that movie, only exception was the Joker.

myk 04-23-2011 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyCooper (Post 862769)
IMDb Top 250

Also the Dark Knight should have a much lower rating too in my mind. There was nothing special about that movie, only exception was the Joker.

Arguably Heath Ledger's best role.

MMM 04-23-2011 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyCooper (Post 862769)

That's not a person, but groupthink.

BobbyCooper 04-23-2011 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 862789)
That's not a person, but groupthink.

I know, much more efficient that way.

and IMDb is one of the leaders out there.

MMM 04-23-2011 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyCooper (Post 862792)
I know, much more efficient that way.

and IMDb is one of the leaders out there.

Leaders of what?

Groupthink is the opposite of efficiency.

Show me links of individual people that are saying Inception is one of the ten best movies in the history of cinema.

BobbyCooper 04-23-2011 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 862798)
Leaders of what?

Groupthink is the opposite of efficiency.

Show me links of individual people that are saying Inception is one of the ten best movies in the history of cinema.

So your saying a group of people who love Movies and watched that movie and gave there votes, says less than one single snob?

myk 04-23-2011 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 862798)
Leaders of what?

Groupthink is the opposite of efficiency.

Show me links of individual people that are saying Inception is one of the ten best movies in the history of cinema.

ALL-TIME 100 Movies - TIME

Inception is not included in this list, though I couldn't find when this article was published so it could be before the movie even came out.

After reading this list and comparing it to the one Bobby posted, it looks like the critics favor older movies. The majority of these particular critics' picks are movies from the 40s-60s. There were only five or six movies on this list that came out after 2000. City of God, Finding Nemo, the LOTR trilogy, and a couple others I had never heard of.

On the other hand, the popular opinion-based list seems to include newer movies, which makes sense. People tend to favor films that have come out since they were born. Especially now, since filmmaking is vastly different than how it used to be (special effects-driven movies are huge nowadays, and obviously didn't exist back then).

BobbyCooper 04-23-2011 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by myk (Post 862800)
ALL-TIME 100 Movies - TIME

Inception is not included in this list, though I couldn't find when this article was published so it could be before the movie even came out.

After reading this list and comparing it to the one Bobby posted, it looks like the critics favor older movies. The majority of these particular critics' picks are movies from the 40s-60s. There were only five or six movies on this list that came out after 2000. City of God, Finding Nemo, the LOTR trilogy, and a couple others I had never heard of.

On the other hand, the popular opinion-based list seems to include newer movies, which makes sense. People tend to favor films that have come out since they were born. Especially now, since filmmaking is vastly different than how it used to be (special effects-driven movies are huge nowadays, and obviously didn't exist back then).

I agree with you there myk.

I also find it always funny that close to zero Asian Movies are being included in those lists. Movies like memories of murder, OldBoy, Battle Royale, Hero and so on..

It's Hollywood and 95% Hollywood which just isn't a top 100 list anymore then, at least in my eyes.


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