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MMM 07-20-2010 09:41 AM

Inception (2010)
 
This new movie is getting a lot of attention in Japan, partially because international Japanese superstar Ken Watanabe plays a major role.

Have you seen it? What do you think?

I expect it will be an Oscar nominated movie come next February.

Inception is expertly written and expertly executed with an all-star and international cast.

Ronin4hire 07-20-2010 10:06 AM

Looks amazing.

Havent seen it yet but here is a review from IGN

YouTube - Inception Review

JayT 07-20-2010 10:52 AM

Meh, wasn't as good as Memento or The Prestige.
Didn't really grasp me like his other psychological movies did.
People were making such hype about it being an intelligent movie that you have to think a lot about.
I found it very straight forward and very predictable compared to his older works.
Ending didn't deliver like his other movies either.

Sinestra 07-20-2010 01:39 PM

I found it very good and intriguing even though i guessed what the ending was going to be like. It was very entertaining and i will say that the cinematography was fantastic and the movie in general was just great. Ken Watanabe does a great a job as usual he is of course one of my favorite Japanese actors. Leo does a great job as well i think he has found his calling with these types of movies.

I will say this right now my big problem with movies nowadays is writing but Inception had exceptional writing and it was executed superbly.

Barone1551 07-20-2010 01:49 PM

I thought it was a fantastic movie. While I didn't think it was as hard to understand as some people, I did appreciate all of the movies complexities and well thought out script. I thought it stacked up well against all of Nolan's other films. I cant wait to see it again, its one of the best movies I have seen in a long while.

And I find that most of the people that didn't like the movie, didn't like it because they thought it was to hard to understand.

JayT 07-20-2010 09:27 PM

^What was hard to understand about it?
It was a dream within a dream, within a dream.

MMM 07-20-2010 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JayT (Post 820682)
Meh, wasn't as good as Memento or The Prestige.
Didn't really grasp me like his other psychological movies did.
People were making such hype about it being an intelligent movie that you have to think a lot about.
I found it very straight forward and very predictable compared to his older works.
Ending didn't deliver like his other movies either.

I disagree with about every statement in that post. Although I think Memento and The Prestige are great movies, The Prestige was not Nolan's original idea and Memento feels like a practice run to Inception (although it is a very well made one).

Compared to every other movie to come out this summer, calling Inception anything other than "intelligent" is simply not fair.

I guess it is straight forward in some ways, but like Lost, there are lots of little questions that are not clearly answered. I think you could argue about how many levels down had Cobb gone...was it 4, or 5? Was Mal right and Cobb wrong, or the other way around? Many things we accept, but when examined later become suspect (just like a dream..hmmm). For example, Saito says the longest international flight is Sydney to LA which is 10 hours. Not only is it not 10 hours (closer to 14) it isn't the longest. Newark to Singapore is 19 hours. Robert Fisher Jr. is the son of Maurice Fisher. Why is he "Jr."? Why does Cobb have an American accent and his father a British accent. How is Cobb's father in Paris, and then waiting for Cobb at the airport in LA? Why haven't Cobb's children grown? Cobb gets off the bullet train in Kyoto, but then is back in Tokyo. Cobb and Arthur talk about their ride on the roof at night, and then a few moments as they reach the roof it is light out. Why does Cobb use his wife's token? Where is his?

JayT 07-20-2010 11:47 PM

The accent? Really? Not everyone switches accents over, some people decide how they want to speak as well. My mother uses her British accent when talking to family in the UK and her American accent while she's in America.

Why couldn't the father have been in LA? He didn't have any criminal charges so nothing was keeping him from going back to America.

From the time Cobb talked to his father and recruited Ariadne, to the time they actually started there mission, it obviously was a while. Definitely long enough for his father to get to America. Or is there something I'm missing?

For things like going to Kyoto and being in Tokyo, and the light and dark situations,
is that really something to decipher or merely just a spoof since most people won't really notice.

MMM 07-20-2010 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JayT (Post 820752)
The accent? Really? Not everyone switches accents over, some people decide how they want to speak as well. My mother uses her British accent when talking to family in the UK and her American accent while she's in America.

Why couldn't the father have been in LA? He didn't have any criminal charges so nothing was keeping him from going back to America.

From the time Cobb talked to his father and recruited Ariadne, to the time they actually started there mission, it obviously was a while. Definitely long enough for his father to get to America. Or is there something I'm missing?

For things like going to Kyoto and being in Tokyo, and the light and dark situations,
is that really something to decipher or merely just a spoof since most people won't really notice.

I realize the accent is a minor point, but Cobb's father is a professor in Paris. Where is Cobb's mother? Taking care of the children, we suspect. At Cobb's house in Los Angeles. We don't know how long Cobb has been gone (the end makes it appear to be the same day he left, as the children are in the same clothes, but we know that can't be true).

So if it is a while between the time Araidne is recruited and the mission is completed, why haven't the children aged and why are they in the same clothes? Where is the grandmother?

How does Saito find Cobb so easily?

Why does Arthur tell Cobb "our ride is here" at night, but it is daylight on the roof.

How do Cobb's children know Cobb's phone number at his hotel in Tokyo (or is it Kyoto) when he went there to escape from Cobol Corp?

Why is Cillian Murphy’s character named Robert Fischer Jr. when his dad’s name is Maurice?

Why does Cobb use his wife's token? Where is his?

I am not asking you to answer these questions, but I think these are "off" things" that we accept in the shared dream experience of watching a movie, but don't notice until the movie is over.

JayT 07-21-2010 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 820755)
I realize the accent is a minor point, but Cobb's father is a professor in Paris. Where is Cobb's mother? Taking care of the children, we suspect. At Cobb's house in Los Angeles. We don't know how long Cobb has been gone (the end makes it appear to be the same day he left, as the children are in the same clothes, but we know that can't be true).

So if it is a while between the time Araidne is recruited and the mission is completed, why haven't the children aged and why are they in the same clothes? Where is the grandmother?

How does Saito find Cobb so easily?

Why does Arthur tell Cobb "our ride is here" at night, but it is daylight on the roof.

How do Cobb's children know Cobb's phone number at his hotel in Tokyo (or is it Kyoto) when he went there to escape from Cobol Corp?

Why is Cillian Murphy’s character named Robert Fischer Jr. when his dad’s name is Maurice?

Why does Cobb use his wife's token? Where is his?

I am not asking you to answer these questions, but I think these are "off" things" that we accept in the shared dream experience of watching a movie, but don't notice until the movie is over.

That is true, all good points.
Maybe I'm just too critical since all my friends said it'll be such a mind bender.
I was expecting to see a modern David Lynch film with special effects but that wasn't the case.

True Inception has a lot of points to be questioned, but Lost Highway and Mulholland Drive have tons as well.

Seeing Lost High at least 10 times, I still can't exactly explain why the events in the movie occurred in my own words.

MMM 07-21-2010 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JayT (Post 820756)
That is true, all good points.
Maybe I'm just too critical since all my friends said it'll be such a mind bender.
I was expecting to see a modern David Lynch film with special effects but that wasn't the case.

True Inception has a lot of points to be questioned, but Lost Highway and Mulholland Drive have tons as well.

Seeing Lost High at least 10 times, I still can't exactly explain why the events in the movie occurred in my own words.

For a moment there, I thought you were talking about watching Lost after smoking weed.

JayT 07-21-2010 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 820759)
For a moment there, I thought you were talking about watching Lost after smoking weed.

Haha I seemed to have forgotten to write 'Highway' :o

MMM 07-21-2010 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JayT (Post 820791)
Haha I seemed to have forgotten to write 'Highway' :o

Inception is definitely not a David Lynch movie. David Lynch is great, but sometimes seems to be incomprehensible for the sake of it.

I think this movie has an "answer" even if it isn't clear in the first viewing.

MMM 07-21-2010 06:10 AM

*Double Post*

edelweiss 07-21-2010 08:21 AM

I think it's a fine continuation of the Director's exploration of memory: How do we know what we know? And is what we perceive reality?

I thought it was well directed and nicely edited. Good script, well cast, fine acting, good special effects. I was glad to see so many actors I already like in one film: Cillian Murphy, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Marion Cotillard and Ken Watanabe were each a draw to me. I'm on and off in liking DiCaprio but I did like him in this.

I don't think it's really correct to compare Lynch's work to Nolan. I could see comparing Nolan to David Fincher and people have made comparisons to Kubrick which I think is more related than Lynch. There is even an intentional Kubrick reference in Inception.

I also liked seeing Marion Cotillard and hearing the music of Edith Piaf in a film other than "Piaf". It's like seeing something in a dream then being confused when you see the things in another waking context. Maybe that's me reading too much into it.

MMM 07-21-2010 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by edelweiss (Post 820806)
I think it's a fine continuation of the Director's exploration of memory: How do we know what we know? And is what we perceive reality?

I thought it was well directed and nicely edited. Good script, well cast, fine acting, good special effects. I was glad to see so many actors I already like in one film: Cillian Murphy, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Marion Cotillard and Ken Watanabe were each a draw to me. I'm on and off in liking DiCaprio but I did like him in this.

I don't think it's really correct to compare Lynch's work to Nolan. I could see comparing Nolan to David Fincher and people have made comparisons to Kubrick which I think is more related than Lynch. There is even an intentional Kubrick reference in Inception.

I also liked seeing Marion Cotillard and hearing the music of Edith Piaf in a film other than "Piaf". It's like seeing something in a dream then being confused when you see the things in another waking context. Maybe that's me reading too much into it.

I agree with you, edelweiss. I don't think comparing Lynch to Nolan is really accurate. Lynch has 20+years of a resume, but I don't think he is as vital as he was around the time of Blue Velvet, which will likely become his swan song. I think Inception will be Christopher Nolan's swan song, and although it is early to say, I think it will be regarded as a better movie than Blue Velvet.

AllICanSay 07-21-2010 06:20 PM

Haven't seen it yet... Would love to though ^_^

ayuzu 07-26-2010 08:50 PM

I was always wondering why this movie got so much hype, lol. Alot of people tell me to go watch it.. from the sounds of it, it seems pretty good. :)

JohnBraden 09-09-2010 04:54 PM

I liked it....
 
... it's like Where Dreams May Come meets The Matrix.... You really have to pay attention to it....

I did, and noticed they were riding on the Series 500 Shinkansen. I thought it was done for: the airplane-looking one. At least I heard it was done for on the Nozomi run.

MMM 09-09-2010 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnBraden (Post 828260)
... it's like Where Dreams May Come meets The Matrix.... You really have to pay attention to it....

I did, and noticed they were riding on the Series 500 Shinkansen. I thought it was done for: the airplane-looking one. At least I heard it was done for on the Nozomi run.

The Series 500 is now out of service, as I understand. It was too fast and there were small cracks opening in the tunnels between Osaka and Tokyo.

JustinRossTso 09-09-2010 08:32 PM

I watched it over here in Canada with my friends, man we all liked it! I believe this is a winner too. The movie reminds me of the director's other movie Memento.

This movie even had action in it! It was quite exciting for the most part.

That Japanese man was familiar... I remember seeing him somewhere before... (Probably a Canon camera commercial).

It was pretty funny too, the movie.

MMM 09-09-2010 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinRossTso (Post 828304)
That Japanese man was familiar... I remember seeing him somewhere before... (Probably a Canon camera commercial).

It was pretty funny too, the movie.

The great Ken Watanabe also appeared in Memoirs of a Geisha, Batman Begins, The Last Samurai, and Tampopo.

JustinRossTso 09-09-2010 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 828305)
The great Ken Watanabe also appeared in Memoirs of a Geisha, Batman Begins, The Last Samurai, and Tampopo.

Oh! Probably Memoirs of a Geisha, or Batman Begins. I never watched The Last Samurai or Tampopo (shrugs).

Hehe! My favourite part (hope this isn't a spoiler) is when he was like... I bought the whole airline company... I thought it was needed...

Suki 10-02-2010 06:55 PM

I slept through the entire movie :D

WellThatHurt 10-02-2010 07:11 PM

Loved this movie. I saw the midnight showing. You really have to pay attention to the movie or you will end up lost. I was already tired from work so I had kind of a hard time staying awake, but once the fights starting happening I was wide awake.

Suki 10-15-2010 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by shangrilrao (Post 833034)
The inception is not just the films of David Lynch. David Lynch is great, but sometimes it seems incomprehensible to themselves.

David Lynch is not the director nor the writer of this movie, it's Christopher Nolan.

evanny 10-21-2010 10:07 AM

new southpark episode made a nice spoof of inception just now :cool:
movie was ok. i wouldnt say as great as everyone says. well i liked for a change what they did with special effects by changing dimensions of world.

markvines1 10-29-2010 07:11 AM

This new film is getting a lot of attention in Japan, partly because the international superstar Japanese Ken Watanabe plays an important role. Have you seen it? What do you think? I look forward to Oscar-nominated film will be the next February.

blakjohnes 12-04-2010 02:38 PM

It was really excellent movie, It wa also nominated for Oscars last year. This movie had very strong story about future.The animation used in movie was never seen before.That's why i really love this movie.

jackport 12-31-2010 09:14 AM

I watched it, that was great movie. I think the this movie has been very successful when you start to look, and stand after what seems a bit of time, only to discover that in reality is after 2.5 hours. The suspension is one of those movies.

MMM 02-14-2011 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ziesha (Post 850981)
one of the most commendable and mine favorite movie ! But i am wondering that why this movie didn't won over the social network while oscars

The Oscars aren't for a couple weeks.

Ghap 02-26-2011 10:02 AM

It was entertaining!

Personally thats all I can say.

tohruchan7 04-15-2011 06:18 PM

Best movie that iv seen in a long time! but got dizzy at the end

ryuurui 04-15-2011 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Suki (Post 831462)
I slept through the entire movie :D

Glad to see the above, because i thought there was something wrong with me. The movie has got great reviews yet for me it was close to boring. Way overdone in my opinion, like one of those French dishes that is so pimped, that it looks as if someone threw it up. Camera work was impressive, but i really did not like the plot.

Suki 04-22-2011 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ryuurui (Post 861519)
Glad to see the above, because i thought there was something wrong with me. The movie has got great reviews yet for me it was close to boring. Way overdone in my opinion, like one of those French dishes that is so pimped, that it looks as if someone threw it up. Camera work was impressive, but i really did not like the plot.

:)

I still have to rewatch it though. I'm sure I will be able to stay awake and get the storyline this time. But yeah, too much of a twisted plot, plus sci-fi... bad combo.

MMM 04-22-2011 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Suki (Post 862493)
:)

I still have to rewatch it though. I'm sure I will be able to stay awake and get the storyline this time. But yeah, too much of a twisted plot, plus sci-fi... bad combo.

Planet of the Apes, Source Code, Blade Runner, Soylent Green, Total Recall, The Sixth Sense, The Empire Strikes Back, Moon, The Prestige, Never Let Me Go...

Suki 04-22-2011 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 862504)
Planet of the Apes, Source Code, Blade Runner, Soylent Green, Total Recall, The Sixth Sense, The Empire Strikes Back, Moon, The Prestige, Never Let Me Go...

I'm talking about my personal taste. Anything to argue about that too?

MMM 04-22-2011 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Suki (Post 862560)
I'm talking about my personal taste. Anything to argue about that too?

My point is that plot twists are a staple of the sci-fi genre. Inception is, literally, multi-layered, but I don't think you could say it has too much of a twisted plot.

pumpum 04-22-2011 06:36 PM

Inception was actually a good film, it was exhilerating and the concept was brilliant, however it wuld have been hard for the thicker people to understand, like my brother who watched it and said "i dont get it" so i turned it off and gave him scooby doo instead. :D

ryuurui 04-22-2011 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pumpum (Post 862621)
Inception was actually a good film, it was exhilerating and the concept was brilliant, however it wuld have been hard for the thicker people to understand, like my brother who watched it and said "i dont get it" so i turned it off and gave him scooby doo instead. :D

If anyone is thick it is you, since you didn't understand what we have said. We did not say we didn't get it, only that due to the fact that it was overloaded with ingredients, the pizza did not come out well, which is why we did not enjoy it as the Italians intended. The fact that one enjoys only intellectual movies or activities does not make him a genius, on the contrary, it makes him a boring nerd.


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