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tokusatsufan 06-13-2011 12:19 PM

But if nobody straight is called gay,that automatically makes it better than,or at least as good as,the West. That is all. That's the biggest reason why I'm going there. It is possible to,like,live?

RealJames 06-13-2011 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tokusatsufan (Post 867977)
But if nobody straight is called gay,that automatically makes it better than,or at least as good as,the West. That is all. That's the biggest reason why I'm going there. It is possible to,like,live?

you're right it's not an insult here,

but,

It's considered different and strange and people tend to hide it, stay in the closet, because being different in japan is .... the nail that sticks out gets hammered down...

there is little desire to be unique

MMM 06-13-2011 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RealJames (Post 867894)
it's getting better but it's far from a good situation here,
It's still very difficult for someone to come out here
and if they do life changes a lot

Isn't that true practically everywhere in the world?

tazzy 06-13-2011 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 867864)
Behind relative to What?/Where?

Western Europe.

RealJames 06-14-2011 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 868001)
Isn't that true practically everywhere in the world?

yes, it is.

I meant more so than other developed countries, enough so that it was an easily noticeable observation to me,

but it also seems to be getting better faster than other places,

as best i can tell, the stigma is with being different, not being gay.... does that make sense?

tokusatsufan 06-14-2011 08:09 AM

Well that does make sense but then again they won't say anything will they?

RealJames 06-14-2011 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by tokusatsufan (Post 868053)
Well that does make sense but then again they won't say anything will they?

If someone feels you're strange and is uneasy associating with you, I imagine you'd prefer for them to fess up and say it to your face, rather than feeding you likes through their teeth (sorry not lies, tatemae) saying they'd love to hang out with you etc etc while thinking they don't expect to see you again

tokusatsufan 06-14-2011 12:01 PM

Depends on all the circumstances and everything.

RealJames 06-14-2011 12:07 PM

There is virtually no situation where you'll get an honest opinion about something which is in any way confrontational from a Japanese person...
Even the majority of "good friends" here don't do that.

that's going slightly off topic though,

what I mean is that you won't know how people feel about you,
and sometimes it's better to know that, even if it's in a direct and hurtful way

tokusatsufan 06-14-2011 01:13 PM

Sometimes but I'd rather have a quiet life.


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