Wow... The things people say about him are really interesting, huh? Go you guys... lol... Marilyn Manson is pretty cool...Bet you don't know where he got his name... ^.^; Do you?

yes it said so earlier in this thread but go ahead and share you knowledge and me and my friend we made these water ballons and we named them
brian
Hugh
and Warner
oh yeah

O.o... I wasn't here for the earlier births of this thread... Oh well... About how he took Manson from Charles Manson and Marilyn from Marilyn Monroe... ^.^;

I am quite enlightened by your knowledge on music, it's quite refreshing actually. My husband got me into goth and metal, i wasn't really much into music at all. My husband grew up during the development of Goth (he's 19yrs older then me and is also still stuck int he 80's haha), i get most of my info from what he has shared (he's also goth) in the past, and what i have learned so far.

Night wish was awesome, but lately their albums have done nothing for my taste. I love the voice of Tarja, but i didn't like her solo album, but i still listened to it just for her voice. The new female vocalist in Night wish has a nice voice, but it really just isn't the same.

Most of the bands you listed, are not quite my taste, and some i wouldn't consider as goth. I still don't see the similarities with Marilyns.It's hard though to fully categorize certain sounds anymore because of so many sub's. I think that it comes down to perception then what the style really is. In some europian countries, what we see as goth is their pop music.

I myself am more of a powermetal head. Some peoples Europian Trash is my Treasure.

I just wanted to mention that your statement about "Those bands you listed are gothic/doom metal bands and are seen more as a part of metal culture rather than gothic,"

You kind of contradicted yourself with saying that they were gothic/doom but then claimed they were more metal then gothic.
Could you clarify this for me, thankzzzz ZZtop.
:confused: :rheart:

pps. i laugh when rumors are spread about removing ribs to give self oral, especially when it can be done with proper flexibility. I'm sure he could give himself whatever he wanted with after a couple of yoga classes lol

When I say goth I'm talking about the underground subculture, and my point is that gothic metal is a subgenre of metal, not a subgenre of goth, but whether the band is gothic or metal depends on the band's image of course. Nightwish, for an example, is a metal band, while Moi dix Mois (since this is a Japan forum) is more goth. Look at Nightwish and you'll see they don't act or dress as goths, while Moi dix Mois does, therefore Moi dix Mois is gothic and not metal. I know it's confusing. xD

I shouldn't have said that they were more a part of the metal culture, my apologies. If the band dress and act as goths, then they're gothic, if they act otherwise they're metal, that's my point. :)

If you want to see something gothic that (kinda) sounds like Manson, check out Michelle Darkness' latest (and first) album, Brand New Drug. Here's a video on one of the songs: YouTube - MICHELLE DARKNESS - Pet Sematary (2007)
Now that's goth as it should be in my opinion. :)

Also, you mentioned some of the bands I posted you didn't consider gothic. Well, whether or not they dress gothic, gothic rock and darkwave is a part of gothic culture, so that automatically makes them gothic. :D

Of course, EBM and other electronic music also has it's part in gothic culture, but more to the cyber and cyber gothic culture.

I'm only 17 years old, I weren't there in the 80's, and I have only been a goth for 2 years, but I study deep, and draw my own logical conclusions, so I know pretty much anyway. :)

In music, I go for anything that sounds good, whether it's goth or not. I love Nightwish, I love their new album and vocalist, I even listen to Metallica, Megadeth, Blink 182 and, Hell, I even enjoy listening to Everytime We Touch by Cascada. xD
But gothic music is what attracts me the most. :)

In his biography he tells he saw both Marilyn Monroe and Charles Manson mentioned in the same news cast when he were young, that's how he got the name. It symbolizes that a praised person such as Marilyn Monroe and a hated criminal such as Charles Manson can get exactly the same attention. He continued the trend in the band to a beginning, then it faded away, with names of the other members too, by taking a famous actress or artist first name and the surname of a serial killer; Madonna Wayne Gacy, Ginger Fish, Twiggy Ramirez, Daisy Berkowitz etc. The past guitarist John 5, however, got his name because he was the fifth member to join Marilyn Manson. :)
Currently, only Manson and Ginger Fish are left in the band to have the old actress-serial killer naming. :D

I just reallized... But this thread does need to be moved... To the Japanese Music section... Even if it's not about Japanese person... That's the music section!

Signed,

MazarDante

If any one hates Marilyn Manson...don't bother :rheart:

True, but it depends on what the moderators think. :)

I don't like him. His music is boring, he's just a copymachine.
I have seen him live before too.. it wasnt good either.

I agree partly, he copies much, but he makes it better. :p

Naaah.. Maybe 'Sweet Dreams', but that's the only one.

Yes... It does doesn't it? If I was a mod. though i'd move this topic... ^.^; Hey any of you wanna join my Mogglin Forums?

I THINK I AM GOING TO CRY!!!! TWIGGY IS BACK!!! :rheart: :rheart: :rheart: :rheart: :rheart: :rheart:

O.o... lol... You go do that...

he was always my favourite!! i love twiggy, ginger fish, and manson! ^^

Ah, Twiggy Ramirez is back? Yeah, he's cool. He left for awhile to play in A Perfect Circle, IIRC.

Anyway, Marilyn Manson is alright. I have a liking for just a few of his songs, off the Mechnical Animals album.

Personal Jesus, Tainted Love, Astonishing Panorama Of The Endtimes (copied from a Ministry song), Rock N' Roll Nigger, etc. :D

OMGNOWAI!!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
HE'S MY FAVOURITE!!!! HE'S THE BEST!!!! I'M ALL... OOOOMMMMFFFG!!!! I'M IN LOVE WITH THE GUY!!!! :rheart: :rheart:

Mechanical Animals, yes that's his best album in my opinion. ;)

o.O... Yes that is a good Album... Hmm... This thread still needs to be moved...

Haha, then say that to the admin. :)

O.o The admin is never on... >.<; It sorta stinks...

Then PM a moderator, I'm not going to move it for you. :D

I know... >.<; I will! Jeez... lol

i don't see how it matters where the thread is...why should it be moved????

I dunno. Thinking of it, this thread is a poll if someone likes or dislikes a certain person, that doesn't necessary mean it needs to be placed in the music category. :)

my point exactly...:D

He is okay, I think he is a cool guy but I dont like his music. :)

Is it true that he is inspierd by hide? ^^

what?no,,you got it wrong XD I'm so bad at English >_>

I read somwhere that Marilyn Manson was inspired by hide (X Japan) ,bu I don't know if it's true

No. If he was inspired by anyone it'd be Alice Cooper. I hardly believe he listens to japanese music.

That is a lie. Everything they use that looks remotely dead or bloody is fake and they wouldn't really take someone's bones or body parts without asking for it first. Please, there are laws even within the US.
Do you know which video that is accused? I can be the judge if it's fake or not.

He has the mummified(sp) body of a person and a old otopsy(sp) table...
His ex-wife(Dita von Teese) is my fashion designing muse...

He has pretty damn good music.
However, he disgust me, not by his music,face or style. Just his aura/attitude reminds me of someone I can't stand.