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Yorichan 04-01-2008 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by lulu (Post 442796)
Oh yeah... That's why I call him a song killer...

he is not a murderer of songs...he only sings what he thinks the song should sound like....if you wanna hear a bad cover of a song...try riyanna(err..however its spelt)!!!!!
taking the background from "tainted love"!!!!!!
shame on her..
shame, shame, shame....

rockoutgirl101 04-01-2008 02:58 PM

love him
 
I love his music, especialy his song dope show. Did you know he played in the movie jaw breaker with his now ex girlfriend Rose mcgoan (srry, cant spell her last name) But it was still a good way for him to get exsposure.:cool: :ywave:

Acidreptile 04-01-2008 03:00 PM

He was cool once.But not anymore.

Yorichan 04-01-2008 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Acidreptile (Post 444360)
He was cool once.But not anymore.

pft...says you!:mtongue:

lulu 04-01-2008 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Yorichan (Post 444338)
he is not a murderer of songs...he only sings what he thinks the song should sound like....if you wanna hear a bad cover of a song...try riyanna(err..however its spelt)!!!!!
taking the background from "tainted love"!!!!!!
shame on her..
shame, shame, shame....

I've heard both... Shame on both of 'em!

SovereignEvil 04-02-2008 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Acidreptile (Post 444360)
He was cool once.But not anymore.

He's still cool, but he was way more cool before and at the start of his career.

SunakoChan 04-03-2008 03:42 AM

I went to his concert last year and had a great time. His show was very entertaining. He moved all over the stage, and a chair XD

MissMisa 04-03-2008 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Acidreptile (Post 444360)
He was cool once.But not anymore.

Yeah I agree, he's kind of gone steadily downhill as time progresses.

Still his old stuff is awesome :D

Corvin 04-04-2008 11:35 PM

IMO, his music is valuable. I value his vocal. Some people say that his vocal is ugly, but i can't agree with them. More, music is very interesting too.

ivi0nk3y 04-05-2008 02:59 AM

MM is a over hyped twit who thinks its cool to be over-eccentric. His only talent lies in his shock value and once you get used to it, his shine diminishes.
I must say, I was never a fan of his and rather hated the guy, despite knowing he's intelligent and blah blah.
Everyone around me was soooo into him but in the end as they grew up, they used him as a stepping stone to more deeper and meaningful bands.
Which basically is what MM is, a fascinating fad for teenagers who need "bright lights and loud bangs" to attract them to Rock.

SovereignEvil 04-05-2008 08:24 AM

Right, that must be the reason because I like him. It must be all the BRIGHT LIGHTS and SHINY COLOURS and LOUD SCREAMING. That must be the reason why I didn't ENJOY HIM much LIVE.
I like his music and that's it. You don't know why I like him, so don't push me off like I'm one of those teenage shit kids that you speak of, because you're basicly saying that all of his fans are like that. Jeez...

Gerlandox 04-05-2008 09:06 AM

I dont like him as e type
although he has a few nice songs
that maybe because the guys of NINE INCH NAILs do his music

And didn`t you noteced all his famous songs are covers:D
G.

Gerlandox 04-05-2008 09:08 AM

Ah and MONKEY
I ASKED ABOUT UR NUMBER
I~M IN THE NEXT THE 3 Weeks IN LONDON
WE CAN HAVE THAT CHAT.

SovereignEvil 04-05-2008 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerlandox (Post 449132)
I dont like him as e type
although he has a few nice songs
that maybe because the guys of NINE INCH NAILs do his music

And didn`t you noteced all his famous songs are covers:D
G.

Nine Inch Nails? Dude, it's either he or his band members that write the songs, the rest are covers.

All of his famous songs? Yeah, (s)AINT, Beautiful People, Tourniquet, The Love Song, The Fight Song, Dope Hat, The Dope Show, Coma White. Much covers there. >_>

ivi0nk3y 04-05-2008 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SovereignEvil (Post 449119)
Right, that must be the reason because I like him. It must be all the BRIGHT LIGHTS and SHINY COLOURS and LOUD SCREAMING. That must be the reason why I didn't ENJOY HIM much LIVE.
I like his music and that's it. You don't know why I like him, so don't push me off like I'm one of those teenage shit kids that you speak of, because you're basicly saying that all of his fans are like that. Jeez...

Noone said anything about you :rolleyes:
Even so, i've seen him live enough and been around plenty of people to know how it works from that experience. I don't know anyone who could tell me that his music directly means something on a deeper level to them.
I guess you must be the exception.. lol.
When I said Bright Lights and Loud Bangs, I meant it as an analogy that people are attracted to his style of Rock like Moths are to flame.. but unlike Moths, they grow up.

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Originally Posted by Gerlandox (Post 449133)
Ah and MONKEY
I ASKED ABOUT UR NUMBER
I~M IN THE NEXT THE 3 Weeks IN LONDON
WE CAN HAVE THAT CHAT.

1) I live in Birmingham.
2) Come down to Birmingham and meet me at Broadway Plaza.
3) If you're prepared to do that, i'll give you a number.

SovereignEvil 04-05-2008 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ivi0nk3y (Post 449156)
Noone said anything about you :rolleyes:
Even so, i've seen him live enough and been around plenty of people to know how it works from that experience. I don't know anyone who could tell me that his music directly means something on a deeper level to them.
I guess you must be the exception.. lol.
When I said Bright Lights and Loud Bangs, I meant it as an analogy that people are attracted to his style of Rock like Moths are to flame.. but unlike Moths, they grow up.

Heh, HUGE exception then.
I didn't enjoy Manson much live, maybe because of the crappy seats, but the performance was bad when I put it next to his previous concerts.
Eh, why shouldn't people be attracted to his style of music? Everyone are attracted to artists by their style, like I'm attracted to Bauhaus because their old "crappy" equipment and deep vocals gives the sound I'm in love with. And Manson is not all rock, he plays many different genres, depending on the song and album.

ivi0nk3y 04-05-2008 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SovereignEvil (Post 449160)
Heh, HUGE exception then.
I didn't enjoy Manson much live, maybe because of the crappy seats, but the performance was bad when I put it next to his previous concerts.
Eh, why shouldn't people be attracted to his style of music? Everyone are attracted to artists by their style, like I'm attracted to Bauhaus because their old "crappy" equipment and deep vocals gives the sound I'm in love with. And Manson is not all rock, he plays many different genres, depending on the song and album.

What other genres does he play :confused:
The major point i've made is that MM is just not "deep" or meaningful music.
He goes by shock value to get his message across.

ps. i've seen him live around 5 times, unintentionally. His performances are very good live when i've seen them, cept when he decides to do something like show you his painted white arse.

EveV 04-05-2008 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ivi0nk3y (Post 449163)
What other genres does he play :confused:
The major point i've made is that MM is just not "deep" or meaningful music.
He goes by shock value to get his message across.

ps. i've seen him live around 5 times, unintentionally. His performances are very good live when i've seen them, cept when he decides to do something like show you his painted white arse.

Some people see something deeper within that shock value.
Like bravery and they really admire that.

I don't like him either but eh.

SMGotenks 04-05-2008 12:15 PM

I don't like him.
His music isn't ambitious and is so-so.
And his appearance... bleah.

SovereignEvil 04-05-2008 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ivi0nk3y (Post 449163)
What other genres does he play :confused:
The major point i've made is that MM is just not "deep" or meaningful music.
He goes by shock value to get his message across.

If he plays just rock then I'm Nik Fiend on speed, which I'm not. When you say rock it's friggin' Rolling Stones, that sort, and Manson sounds nothing like that. Various other genres include industrial, glam, hard rock, heavy metal and various electronical genres mixed with yet more metal. Basicly, his style is defined as alternative metal more than shock rock.

Well, I think he makes deep and meaningful music. He expresses feelings and thoughts, it's talk about important stuff, like politics, drugs, oppression, affection, etc.

ivi0nk3y 04-05-2008 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SovereignEvil (Post 449173)
If he plays just rock then I'm Nik Fiend on speed, which I'm not. When you say rock it's friggin' Rolling Stones, that sort, and Manson sounds nothing like that. Various other genres include industrial, glam, hard rock, heavy metal and various electronical genres mixed with yet more metal. Basicly, his style is defined as alternative metal more than shock rock.

Well, I think he makes deep and meaningful music. He expresses feelings and thoughts, it's talk about important stuff, like politics, drugs, oppression, affection, etc.

Yes he does make rock. That is the overall genre. I wasn't being very specific what sub-genre but MM is known as a "rockstar" above all else. He goes to rock awards and comes on rock tv channels.

As for his deep and meaningful music, I think the majority of people don't listen to his music because it is deep or meaningful. They like the catchyness of it and because it is just Raw music to them which they can easily listen to.
Again, that is my experience with people anyway.
If he wanted to talk about deep and meaningful stuff, he could make it more obvious for the listener.
First impressions count for a lot. Once you like an artist for what you initially perceive them as, it'll take some effort to think of them as something else.

SovereignEvil 04-05-2008 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ivi0nk3y (Post 449268)
Yes he does make rock. That is the overall genre. I wasn't being very specific what sub-genre but MM is known as a "rockstar" above all else. He goes to rock awards and comes on rock tv channels.


Hahaha, just because he's featured there doesn't mean he's into JUST rock, because that was what I said. Media has no idea how to put genres nowadays, you should know that. I saw a review of a Moi dix Mois concert where they called them glam rock when the band clearly plays gothic metal, so my advice is not to trust something from the television.

MissMisa 04-05-2008 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ivi0nk3y (Post 449163)
He goes by shock value to get his message across.

Loads of people do that, it's a great way for people who have been ignored for years to get noticed and get their opinion heard. Maybe that's just how he is anyway? Who knows, either way, it worked.

Gerlandox 04-05-2008 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SovereignEvil (Post 449135)
Nine Inch Nails? Dude, it's either he or his band members that write the songs, the rest are covers.

All of his famous songs? Yeah, (s)AINT, Beautiful People, Tourniquet, The Love Song, The Fight Song, Dope Hat, The Dope Show, Coma White. Much covers there. >_>

I didnt mean your preference I did mean the mos famous...
But its a matter of preference.
as 4 the band heh well hell do you know NIN???
but anyway dont be aggressive becouse our meanings interfer
I like his music more than you think,
I just dont like his pseudoshockrock effect
He could have reached much more people without that stuff.
anyway Thats what I think, So dont be offendet.. GIRL

SovereignEvil 04-05-2008 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerlandox (Post 449721)
I didnt mean your preference I did mean the mos famous...
But its a matter of preference.
as 4 the band heh well hell do you know NIN???
but anyway dont be aggressive becouse our meanings interfer
I like his music more than you think,
I just dont like his pseudoshockrock effect
He could have reached much more people without that stuff.
anyway Thats what I think, So dont be offendet.. GIRL

Uhm, those I mentioned are among his most famous songs, I have other favourites.
Yes, I know Nine Inch Nails, and yes I know Manson have played with Nine Inch Nails, and yes I know they are in the same label as Manson. The only thing that Trent Reznor (only him, not the rest of NIN) helps with are the videos and the mixing of some songs, that's it. He doesn't write stuff for Manson.
I'm not offended, I'm just trying make some things clear for people.
And did you just call me a girl?

Gerlandox 04-05-2008 09:34 PM

HAHAHAH
Calm down girl...
I meant no harm

Gerlandox 04-05-2008 09:37 PM

WWWWWWWWWWoooooowwwww
hahahahhahaa I`v just seen ur profile

Occupation:
Student, I guess...
Gender:
Male

Why that pic than, some sort unfullfilled dsire..
I still mean no harm
Boy

SovereignEvil 04-05-2008 09:37 PM

I'm a boy, but thank you for the compliment.

Gerlandox 04-05-2008 09:39 PM

I WAS RIGHT I WAS Fucking RIGHT
HAHAHHAHAHAH
Shiiiiiiiit.
Didnt see ur last post hahahahahah
MAAAAAAAAAN

SovereignEvil 04-05-2008 09:40 PM

Haha, thought you had a chance to bang me or what?

EveV 04-05-2008 09:42 PM

OoOoOo.
Wrong timing << whew.
Don't let me disturb you gentlemen ; )

SovereignEvil 04-05-2008 09:43 PM

Yeah, I'm gonna get me some tonight. Mmm-hmmm!

Gerlandox 04-05-2008 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SovereignEvil (Post 449769)
Haha, thought you had a chance to bang me or what?

Bang you hahahahahahahah
Sorry man i cant sto laughing
hahhahaha

I rather preffer sweet tender virgin lovely chiks, not chiks like you no no no...
But anyway thx man
It was woth the try
hahahhahah

SovereignEvil 04-05-2008 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerlandox (Post 449789)
Bang you hahahahahahahah
Sorry man i cant sto laughing
hahhahaha

I rather preffer sweet tender virgin lovely chiks, not chiks like you no no no...
But anyway thx man
It was woth the try
hahahhahah

Awww, c'mon you know you want me. I'm a virgin, come here.

Gerlandox 04-05-2008 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SovereignEvil (Post 449774)
Yeah, I'm gonna get me some tonight. Mmm-hmmm!

4 sure babe 4 sure
HAHAhahahah LOL
KEEP ON TRYING

SovereignEvil 04-05-2008 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerlandox (Post 449793)
4 sure babe 4 sure
HAHAhahahah LOL
KEEP ON TRYING

Ugh, you're hurting my feelings.

Gerlandox 04-05-2008 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SovereignEvil (Post 449791)
Awww, c'mon you know you want me. I'm a virgin, come here.

YOU A VIRGIN???
HAHAHAHAHAH
Man with ur additude about sex ... LOL hhahahahahaha

But anyway this is getting to weird 4 me dude...
You know what LOL
Why dont you try some GEY Forum
U`ll succed there 4 sure
And u`ll get ur bang 4 tonight 4 SURE
HAHHAHAHAHA
Man sorry i cant stop laughing.
Anyway have nothing against u
U can practice animalsex if u want
HAHAHAH

SovereignEvil 04-05-2008 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerlandox (Post 449799)
YOU A VIRGIN???
HAHAHAHAHAH
Man with ur additude about sex ... LOL hhahahahahaha

But anyway this is getting to weird 4 me dude...
You know what LOL
Why dont you try some GEY Forum
U`ll succed there 4 sure
And u`ll get ur bang 4 tonight 4 SURE
HAHHAHAHAHA
Man sorry i cant stop laughing.
Anyway have nothing against u
U can practice animalsex if u want
HAHAHAH

Sodomy? Nah, that's nothing for me. Not unless there's some cake along with it.
I think I'm too straight to be in a gay forum, but still too gay to be here? Argh!
You know you want to bang me! How much do you need? 10 minutes, lol?

Gerlandox 04-05-2008 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SovereignEvil (Post 449796)
Ugh, you're hurting my feelings.

feelings???
I Cant And Wont Imagine where you feelings are .....
LOL
I`m getting out of here
This Is geting very Fucking Weird
SCARYYY huhuhhuhu ....

Sorry man I`m strait.

SovereignEvil 04-05-2008 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerlandox (Post 449802)
feelings???
I Cant And Wont Imagine where you feelings are .....
LOL
I`m getting out of here
This Is geting very Fucking Weird
SCARYYY huhuhhuhu ....

Sorry man I`m strait.

But I'm straight too, we can make it work, LOL!


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