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SephirothVVC 04-16-2009 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FeyOberon (Post 698976)
Guess I'll have to pick Cloud -- if only just to counter-balance all the Sephiroth-love going on here. ;)

I love 'em both, but two things immediately come to mind:

1) Cloud is Vincent's best friend -- and Vincent takes the cake in my humble opinion.

2) Sephiroth is Hojo's son -- that is a negative that goes without further elaboration.

By the way, great character synopsis in the OP, hikkiFM!

no, Vincent is Seph's dad. Lucretcia and Vincent had Seph and Hojo injected her with Jenova cells....no one would ever mate with that disturbing man(hojo)

FeyOberon 04-16-2009 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SephirothVVC (Post 699028)
no, Vincent is Seph's dad. Lucretcia and Vincent had Seph and Hojo injected her with Jenova cells....no one would ever mate with that disturbing man(hojo)

I definetly agree with you on your assessment of Hojo. However, I have to disagree with your interpretation of events. Their back-story is told by Vincent, with an accompanying flash-back sequence, when he finds Lucrecia again in her cave behind the waterfall in FFVII. (The story is told again in Dirge of Cerberus.)

Vincent was in love with Lucrecia -- no question about that. The waterfall cave sequence in VII implies that she loved him in return [part of the scene showing them walking through Nibelheim holding hands], and in Dirge of Cerberus that is shown to be a fact. However, Lucrecia turns away from Vincent to embrace Hojo both figuratively and literally [she pulls her hands away from Vincent's and runs off. The next scene shows her embracing Hojo; Vincent, in the fore-ground, hangs his head in despair.] Vincent narrates: "If she is happy then, I don't mind."

Why did she choose Hojo? It's never really clear (and, like you said, he's disturbing). At one point in FFVII, Vincent suggests that she may have felt she could protect Hojo from himself.

I've spent about ten years wrapping my brain around this one.

Oni 04-17-2009 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by FeyOberon (Post 699056)
Why did she choose Hojo? It's never really clear (and, like you said, he's disturbing). At one point in FFVII, Vincent suggests that she may have felt she could protect Hojo from himself.

I've spent about ten years wrapping my brain around this one.

You're not the only going "Why did she go with him?! Vincent is so much better!" (I yelled at my TV :p )but if she didn't go with Hojo, then we wouldn't have the kickass Vincent we have today ;). So I guess it's a good thing she went with Hojo... I think... well, no. But still.

SephirothVVC 04-17-2009 12:57 AM

yes she went with hojo, but she was already pregnant at that time...and he just used her baby as an experiment

nobora 04-17-2009 02:04 AM

I like cloud :)

hikkiFM 04-20-2009 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by nobora (Post 699170)
I like cloud :)

and your reason is? hehe

hikkiFM 04-27-2009 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FeyOberon (Post 698976)
Guess I'll have to pick Cloud -- if only just to counter-balance all the Sephiroth-love going on here. ;)

I love 'em both, but two things immediately come to mind:

1) Cloud is Vincent's best friend -- and Vincent takes the cake in my humble opinion.

2) Sephiroth is Hojo's son -- that is a negative that goes without further elaboration.

By the way, great character synopsis in the OP, hikkiFM!

thank you! ^_^

hikkiFM 04-27-2009 06:17 AM

ive added a poll for this thread.. now pex, you can vote. ^_^ and guys if you have decided whom youre gonna choose, dont hesitate to vote. thanks ^_^

Pexster 04-27-2009 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by hikkiFM (Post 704913)
ive added a poll for this thread.. now pex, you can vote. ^_^ and guys if you have decided whom youre gonna choose, dont hesitate to vote. thanks ^_^

hahaha I see you did. lol. ^^

......Darn...hard choice. *is thinking*.......I will vote....soon, I will tell you who I voted for later.
Who did you vote for hikz?

hikkiFM 04-27-2009 06:28 AM

i go 4 seph. haha


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