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ivi0nk3y 10-01-2007 12:16 AM

She means you're a dog.

forgotenmemory 10-01-2007 02:17 AM

Wolf wolf!

Thunda 10-01-2007 08:11 AM

O.O'

haha!

it's not funny.

:D

Suki 10-01-2007 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ivi0nk3y (Post 253769)
She means you're a dog.

Don't you EVER keep your mouth shut? :mtongue:

terra104 10-01-2007 07:04 PM

Dont Derail,,, And Can U Stop Changing All Topics To Chats!

Thunda 10-01-2007 07:27 PM

I have to say I don't agree. It depends on the parent, (oops normally there are two I forgot) that what game do they let the children play. I just loved watching Alien and such when I was 8 and I was afraid to go to the bathroom alone. XD
Same with the games. Some enjoy fear. Playing Silent Hill 4 and the like. Others are neutrons.

forgotenmemory 10-01-2007 09:24 PM

I like playing fantasy games!

I liked to watch horror movies but then I would be too scared to be in the dark!

ivi0nk3y 10-02-2007 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Suki (Post 254233)
Don't you EVER keep your mouth shut? :mtongue:

Negatory at that :)

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Originally Posted by Thunda (Post 254659)
I have to say I don't agree. It depends on the parent, (oops normally there are two I forgot) that what game do they let the children play. I just loved watching Alien and such when I was 8 and I was afraid to go to the bathroom alone. XD
Same with the games. Some enjoy fear. Playing Silent Hill 4 and the like. Others are neutrons.

You just contradicted yourself. "It depends on the parent and what game they let their children play". That statement itself shows that Parents are responsible for their kids more than anything.

Thunda 10-02-2007 12:51 PM

Yeah, I just wanted to babble something not thunda-ish...XD

If I was saying that to another person? who is contra?

haha!:mtongue:

Haggis 10-02-2007 02:17 PM

I would think that watching TV has far more effect than playing computer games. When I was a kid watching the wrestling or Bruce Lee would have more impact then playing erm... Pac man. (God that gives my age away)

Games are an easy target, a kid goes wild with a gun but the American government don't want to do anything about tightening up gun controls, they watch loads of violent movies, but hey gotta leave Hollywood alone, so what about blaming the parents? Come on, why shouldn't they have guns lying around the house it's a free country and besides guns are good. No the problem is that their kid listened to heavy metal music and played violent games. Obviously.

kokunin 10-02-2007 02:37 PM

i think that video games do have a factor in making things real and unreal...so...yeah even if its up to the parents I blame evryone, the people who make the games, the people who let their kids play it, and the law for allowing it...

Thunda 10-02-2007 05:07 PM

lmao at that.

Haggis 10-02-2007 05:19 PM

Here's a film review I found on the web...

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This movie is one that deeply invades the ability of a child to separate fantasy from reality; to grasp consequences of behavior.
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The movie was saturated minute by minute with such influences as
- possession of psychic powers to control others and to kill
- anger with immense power and presence
- lust for power, control, and independence
Anyway that's what they said about 'Pokemon: The Movie - Mewtwo Strikes Back'... you should see what they wrote about Sin City. :)

Suki 10-02-2007 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Haggis (Post 255512)
I would think that watching TV has far more effect than playing computer games. When I was a kid watching the wrestling or Bruce Lee would have more impact then playing erm... Pac man. (God that gives my age away)

Games are an easy target, a kid goes wild with a gun but the American government don't want to do anything about tightening up gun controls, they watch loads of violent movies, but hey gotta leave Hollywood alone, so what about blaming the parents? Come on, why shouldn't they have guns lying around the house it's a free country and besides guns are good. No the problem is that their kid listened to heavy metal music and played violent games. Obviously.

I couldn't agree more. Oh and I know what documentary movie you're talking about, did the whole Manson thing go any further?

Haggis 10-02-2007 05:28 PM

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I couldn't agree more. Oh and I know what documentary movie you're talking about, did the whole Manson thing go any further?
I'm glad you do, I've no idea, my memory isn't what it used to be. :D

Oh just found this on the web...

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After the Columbine killings, Manson was blamed for the killings (although it was later found the kids who did the shooting hated Manson and his music),
No surprises there then.

Thunda 08-17-2008 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ivi0nk3y (Post 251020)
One kid once used my cricket bat to hit a guy in the head, cos said guy called his mother a tennis ball. (lol)

Holy shitfuck!!!!!!!!



LMAOOOO

I imagine "your mother is a tennis ball"

Jaydelart 08-17-2008 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Thunda (Post 563824)
Holy shitfuck!!!!!!!!



LMAOOOO

I imagine "your mother is a tennis ball"

Nice bump.





*Brandishes cricket bat*






But, seriously, it shouldn't be argued as if kids aren't intelligent enough to read information about the games they play before they purchase them.
Violent games attract those who want to play violent games. The desire for violence is already there to a certain extent to begin with.

In the case that you accidentally buy the wrong game, the more logical conclusion would be that you're incredibly irresponsible or an idiot.


... or both.

CarleyGee 08-17-2008 09:42 AM

I think it just depends on the kid playing the video games...
Angry and depressed kids probably shouldn't be given violent video games.
Although I think most kids realize it's just a video game, sometimes we can do crazy things that have inspired us that aren't exactly dangerous, but mostly just really stupid : D

MissMisa 08-17-2008 09:49 AM

Personally I don't think violent media causes people to be violent. It might help them along the way, but they have to have violent intent already. Media cannot solely be blamed for something that is the responsibility of the perpertraitor of the crime and/or persons who commited violent acts.

CarleyGee 08-17-2008 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MissMisa (Post 564033)
Personally I don't think violent media causes people to be violent. It might help them along the way, but they have to have violent intent already.

True, I think stress is a big provider of violent intentions. Also, people who are anti-social or feeling out-of-place that are angry about it. : /

I've always been especially nice to the ones who are always being picked on or avoided at school, for the hope I might be spared whenever they snap and bring a gun to school. : /

I have a soft spot for kids like that, probably because from kindergarden to fifth grade I was really wierd. (as I've been told)

Acidreptile 08-17-2008 11:08 AM

Bah.No one is violent because of music or because of games.

But is much better for society to blame music and games instead of admiting that they are the guilty ones actually.

Wednesday 08-17-2008 05:25 PM

In Germany we had assissinations too. The guys used to play "Counter Strike". All they wanted was revenge. They hated thei classmates, their teachers and all the others around them. And of course, nobody liked them.

The German politicians had not much experience about that. We have heard of Columbine and other things that had happened before. The parents were scared and the politicians had fear to lose their "good" image... (btw: Politicians in Germany never have a good image!). But all they were suggesting was to prohibit games like this.
Nobody of these "experts" did test it. They never played it, so they don't know what they are talking about!

Why are most of the killers males?

CarleyGee 08-17-2008 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Wednesday (Post 564172)

Why are most of the killers males?

My own guess would be that they have more testosterone?

MissMisa 08-17-2008 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Wednesday (Post 564172)

Why are most of the killers males?

Women have more emotional strength to deal with a situation rather than kill somebody?

Who knows, but most drug dealers, dictators, rapists and murderers are men. In general crimes are more often than not, commited by men.

Jaydelart 08-17-2008 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Wednesday (Post 564172)
Why are most of the killers males?

Why do males generally act like males?

Thunda 08-17-2008 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Wednesday (Post 564172)

Why are most of the killers males?

Cuz we don't have nails to brake.


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