violence in games and real life
 

ive read an interesting debate the other day which had an input from the boss of the BBFC (the dudes that classify films in the UK) . He suggested there is no correlation with kids playing violent games, and actual violence caused by them (if any) He suggested that kids are actually quite aware of the fact that a game was fantasy, and had no connection with real life violence, and that they would not necessarily be more driven to commit a violent act, just because they were used to playing games that portrayed it ? He surely doesn't have any justified interest in saying that? After all .. research suggests otherwise .. or does it?

From a censor, I thought it was an interesting point....

Your thoughts

Agree, most peope think kids are stupid!! of course they know its just a game, and its so funny because u know that u cant do it in real life!
Some studies even show that playing a violent game alows u to let go of stress and all! People should be more worried on the kids education instead of blaming games for the childrens actions. I played games i watched horror movies and i never went on a killing spree on my school.

Kids have always been capable of doing violent things, just like adults. I don't think that video games have anything to do with it. If you are that kind of person who would do something to hurt someone else, it doesn't matter if you play a violent video game or not, and I don't think someone who doesn't have it in them would suddenly start being that way just because of a game.

actually research on brain activity using CAT scans and MMRI, have found that the activity in the brain while playing or watching violent scenes, is exactly the same as when watching a real violent scene..
ie, the same part that gets activated in reality is activated when playing a video game. this finding indicates that people get immersed in the game /movie that their brains do not distinguish fantasy violence from reality..

more over, from a behavioural perspective, it makes sense that playing violent games, will make the violent act more salient, and so it would be the first response ( it comes out easily)!!

not enough violence in video games
 

the problem is not the violence it is the lack of pain that goes with the violence ? Sort of like having sweet and sour chicken, without the sour ? Yin without the Yang ? The violence in video games at whatever level still leaves who ever is playing just a passive spectator with a control pad. Until more feedback ( technology ) not 'smell a vision' stuff or vibrating thumb pads nonsense is incorporated into video games we will suffer.
P.S. Halo 3 came out Tues. i will spank u with my plasma rifle online in multi-player 8pm 3am PST . get some!
peace out.

No there is no influence of games at any kind of violence.Killers are already killers and they only need any excuse or inspiration to kill,It can be a book a song a movie or even a game.But they would kill anyway so there is no influence of the games or of anything else.

Well said, dont forget parental education!!

alright then... what about those who already have unconscious tendencies to act aggressively?
they might be the typical next door neighbour, or classmate... dont u think these games might trigger simethin that leads to acting out these tendencies?

Ok, and about the people who are stressed one day and they have a car crash and go beserk and kill the other guy? doesnt he have any responsability? You cant protect everyone like that, violence is an everyday presence, games and in real life, people need to teach kids how to deal with violence and all, not protect them from everything. Like they say u should let a kid get dirty because it makes them resistent to infections and all. ;)

Well said mate.:D

The general concensus among American psychologists is that Violence on TV and in video games does affect children that are PRONE to violent behavior. For children that are not prone to violent behavior, violent TV shows or video games do NOT have any negative effects.

But think well if it's like that,do you remember Mortal Kombat,for example?I saw many little kids playing it and they did not tried to make any "Fatalities" or "Animalities" with the friends.And what about Grand Theft Auto Vice City?At that game you have to steal cars,and you are part of a gang and still,I haven't seen any kid trying to steal cars or joining gangs because they were influenced by those games.

Read what I said. Kids that were PRONE TO VIOLENCE acted in more violent horse-play after playing violent video games. These are kids with self-control and acting out issues. The key point that in kids that were NOT PRONE TO VIOLENT PLAY (basically, normal kids) did NOT show any more violent horse-play after playing violent video games or watching violence on TV. The conclusion was that normal kids were not negatively affected. The games didn't make non-violent kids violent.

EXACTLY.. well said MMM!

Got the point.;)

Wasn't that what I said in like, the 3rd post in this thread? O_o lol

Actually I could be used as an example! (12 year old boy here) well I play fantasy violence like final fantasy etc but not shotting games like F.E.A.R does games scare the hell out of me!!

Anyway if I see a cool move in a game or movie I would have the urge to use it on somebody but I don't! and if I actually play a shotting game I wouldn't feel like killing or hurting somebody. So there it might and it might not and I'm not really violent! *mugs little kid* umm...that proves nothing! :)

Let me re-count some personal experience that may seem irrelevant, but it kinda makes sense in my head :rolleyes:

Back when I was like 8 years old i'd see kids get into fights with each other.
They'd grab each other in an arm lock and just pull each other and that is as far as it would go. As I grew older, these kids started to be influenced by Hollywood and other such mediums. These simple scuffles started to turn into serious stuff. People would get punched in the face and kicked in the balls. One kid once used my cricket bat to hit a guy in the head, cos said guy called his mother a tennis ball. (lol)
I think media has a lot of influence on kids and computer games may be no exception. It certainly de-sensitizes kids in my opinion, since i'm also very de-sensitized by it as are people around me.
Some people are still effected by blood and gore pretty badly in movies but those same people aren't effected at all by anything similar in games. Like my friend doesn't want to watch Samurai X with me cos he's squeamish about the blood but he then goes and plays Dawn of War which has some pretty gruesome killing scenes. He has been playing games a lot so its understandable that in his head he may just accept the bloodshed in a game.
I dunno how it works psychologically but i'm sure games play their part in influencing kids as does other media.
Whether they act upon this and bring out this violence is totally down to their nature.

Yes, if the question is if it desensitzes, then I think your experience is a pretty good example of reality.

it depends on how stupid the person is. they kno a game character don't hav anyone that care about them but a real person do. did u know u can go to court and say "the game made me do it" and get away wit it. BASA!

that made me laugh! lol, it seems to me like there are a lot of parents out there who actually do think that way, especially I mean, if you look at how they raise their kids! O_o

you've really just answered this question yourself. these people already have the violent tendency in them. so again it wasn't caused by playing violent video games, merely released i suppose.

to me, if watching/playing a violent video game is going to cause someone to go and kill/hurt another, they must have already been fucked in the head.

but heres what i want to know, how are these kids getting these violent games, where are the parents? when the parent discovers their child is playing a game that isn't for their age why are they simply not taking them away and complaining to whichever shop sold them the game. or in most cases stop fucking buying these games for your kids if they aren't old enough to play them.

don't get me wrong i agree with the people here who say kids can tell that it is just a game and won't go out and act like a dumb shit, hell i used to play/watch voilent games when i was underage. and i am not a violent person.

but these days theres just too many idiots trying to get games i like banned because they bought/found their kid playing this game and didn't like it.

bit like the gran in america who bought her underage son one of the gta games and then tried to sue rockstar!!

I haven't heard about that situation, but if a parent or whoever raises the kid tries to sue a company after giving the game, they put the blame on the company and not on themselves and even worse the children. So they don't see the children doing something wrong and do not try to raise them better or just talk to them. Which makes the situation even worse in my opinion.

Did you hear about that kid in the US who shot his parents to death cause he'd just seen Terminator and thought the bullets wouldn't hurt them since they didn't seem to have any effect on the guys from the movie? o.O

No I didn't suki...but I'm shure you will tell us more...

I'm a rabid gamer, I particularly enjoy games like True Crime, and Mercenaries. I have been playing games like this for quite some time.(I miss Conkers Bad Fur Day..)

However, I am as non-violent as they come. I have been in three fist-fights in my life, and all three were not started by me. Hell, the last one I didnt even participate in, I just waited until a teacher came along to break it up.(because my Father tells me I shouldnt hit back.... I get in some serious shit if I do, and back then, having him yell at me was thousands of times worse than anything anyone could do to me physically.) I have never had thoughts of killing anyone, no impulses to grab a knife, nothing the law of Jack Thompson says I should be having. I can barely even stand watching a fight in real life(Yeah, call me weak, but thats just me.)

Violence has nothing to do with video games, it has everything to do with A. being psycho or B. Bad parenting.

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that's exactly how i feel. It just seems a lot of parents/relatives just don't want to take responsibility for their children. it's nuts, and a little annoying that they are trying to make their children everyone elses responsibilty.

Yeah. Not to to restate what may have already been stated, but I've always felt that it's the parents fault. Period. For example, here's one of my stories: I grew up on Duke Nukem. Duke Nukem is a shoot-them-up, blow-it-up, go-see-the-strippers, violent game. Now, my parents have always said that all of this is fake, and violence is bad, but most kid's parents don't. It's the fact that most parents don't even care anymore. My parents would turn on the adult lock on Duke Nukem, which means that the strippers and other sexual things in the game would be invisible. Since parents don't punish there kids anymore for there wrong doings, kids have less respect for them. I'm not saying that parents should go beat their kids with hammers, I'm saying that a spank on the rear end only hurts for a second, lol. But now it's to the point that practically every punishment is illegal by the DSS regulations, so again, kids have less respect.

In conclusion, I'm not a muderer, or a thief, or a wife beater, or anything. I'm your average person living an average life without any violent behavior towards anybody. I'm completely against the violent games ban. It just seems that you can get the same content from movies, and a combination of music and books.

(My friend loved 50 cent, so I listened to one of his songs, and a guy walked up to a girl in the song, started shooting that innocent all while she was screaming, and left. Tell me that doesn't influence the general rap listener.)

My mom doesn't let me get rated M games to much blood and violence. And the loud sounds scare me. -_-

I knew there was something doggish in you.

haha!!

Yay for GTA IV I wanna blow some heads off!!

yaaaayyy!!

:D I love headshots and crashes:rheart:

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