are there mexicans in japan
 

if so how come you end up in japan
como es que terminaste asta aya

I have met very few Mexicans living in Tokyo (there are tourists from Mexico, of course). One of the guys who I did meet was working at a Mexican restaurant and he told me that he came to Japan because it was easier for him to get a Japanese visa than an American visa. :)

We need more Mexicans in Japan!!

More taquerias would be nice...

Anyways, the ones I've met were either chefs or musicians who play at Mexican restaurants.

Not to sound racist or anything, but I'd probably get really irritated if I went all the way to Japan and heard Spanish...

I would think, "As if I don't hear that often enough at home, when I go on vacation to get away from everything that is 'home', I have to hear it here, too! >_< "

Out of curiosity, how popular is Mexican food in Japan? Is it near as prolific as it is hear in California? Do they Japan-ify the Mexican food like McDonald's has done?

I love it when people say "Not to sound racist" and then proceed to say something incredibly racist.

But to answer your question:
I don't ever remember seeing Mexican food in Japan. The closest thing (goegraphically) was Brazillian food.

I'm Mexican! I wanna live in Japan. Lol. But I don't wanna turn it into Mexico! Hahaha. But yeah it would be cool if I went to Japan and saw a Mexican restraunt. How interesting!

Maybe, when you come over to Japan. Your english would be really Frik'n anoying. Not to be racist..:D

There are plenty of mexicans in Japan, mostly round the U.S. Millitary bases. 100s of Resturaunts in Okinawa. Even Okinawa has adopetd there own mexican dish. They call it Taco Rice


Peace... :vsign:

Not that I don't understand the replies, but I'm really not trying to be racist! My problem isn't with Mexicans. I just wouldn't expect to travel to the other side of the world and then hear the same (foriegn) language I hear at home XD ^_^;;; .

That's like taking a sip of Coke when you're really craving a cold Coke to find out that it's Pepsi! Or taking a Spanish class where the teacher doesn't ever speak Spanish to the class. Or as the song says, "A free ride when you've already paid." Learning that Visual Kei ACTUALLY got started in Madagascar--that would get a lot of people to go "wtf???", I'm sure! Thank god that's not true...

If Spanish were the language I wanted to hear, I could go out, drive West on the freeway for a half hour, and be in the middle of the Hispanic district in my city. Not that I would need to even go that far--I live in California, so all I'd really have to do is go outside to the public streets.

I'm guessing you don't travel much then.

I've been to quite a lot of places myself and I have always found other tourists from my country.

Moreover, with English being your native language (is it?), you're gonna come across a bunch of people who speak the language you normally hear at home everywhere in the world, no matter where you go to, which -in my opinion- is a good thing and I don't even want to think about how hard it'd be to get around if English was only spoken in English-speaking countries.

hey I want to go to japan.

I kinda love it when people call things that aren't remotely "racist" for "incredibly racist". Saying that you don't like a language or don't like to listen to a language is not racist.

That being said...

Amnell: I think you will hear several languages in Japan besides japanese. Especially if you're in Tokyo. You're just gonna have to live with it ;)

There's nothing not "remotely racist" about saying she would go nuts if she heard Spanish in Japan. It's just when someone says "No to sound racist" usually the following words are racist or discriminatory.

So she would be pissed if she heard Spanish in Japan? As a non-Japanese speaker, that's a pretty elitist attitude. What does she plan on speaking?

I stand by my post.

MMM, Amnell is a HE. But I agree with the poster above you. What Amnell said isn't the slightest bit racist (he wasn't even talking about race, it was language). It can be extremely frustrating to go to a foreign country and then be surrounded by people from your country. It just makes the experience less exciting. e.g. I think Spain is a beautiful country, but I don't like going there because I seem to see more english people than spanish people. It defeats the point of a cultural experience.

Maybe the Mexicans are interested in Japan to.

talves los Mehicanos kyera saver mas de Japan.

sorry if my spanish is off i speak spanish i just dont know how to write it.>^_^<

Amnell is an English-speaker from California. It's not people from his own country he doesn't want to see, but Spanish-speakers, specifially Mexicans.

Few ever MEAN to be discriminatory. It just comes out.

Even still, noodle hit the nail on the head.

to go to Japan and encounter Mexican culture, which is a culture that I've had plenty of exposure to over my life time AND if I wanted to *really* experience said culture, I would go to Mexico, not Japan. Encountering people there speaking Spanish would indicate to me on the sub-intellectual level that "they're everywhere". Which is kind of a racist attitude, I know... But that's just from living in a place where it's actually true XD . Intellectually, I would know that the statement isn't actually true in all cases.

I would also be bummed to go to Tokyo, Japan and get stuck in a pocket of people from America, be the anglophones or Spanish speakers. I briefly toyed with the idea of going to school in Yokohama until I found out that I'd most likely be housed with other international students, about 80% of whom typically were from America. That was kind of a turn-off...

But you're right. Words can often come out very differently from how they were intended. I hope I haven't upset anyone <_<;;; !

Amnell, I know what you meant to say, and I know what you said. I picked on you because it was about the 5th time in as many months that someone said "I don't mean to be racist but..."

I know you live in Southern California and I know you are exposed to Spanish-speakers a lot.

Guess what. There are Spanish-speakers all over the world.

You want your experience of Japan to be like Disneyland, where everything is Japanese-y and there are no foreigners to wreck you pure experience.

Well, too bad you weren't born 200 years ago. Then you could have had that.

Again, I understand what you meant, but here is the reality check. Japan is an international country. People from every country in the world live and visit there. If you want a gaijin-free experience, find the smallest town in the country and go there. All cities have foreigners...even Spanish speakers! in Japan.

Noodle, you still want to defend his last post?

MMM, I think you're just being as pedantic as people like Ronin4hire. If what Amnel said is considered to be racist, then I think the original meaning of the word has been lost. I find it amazing that every slight comment about anything is considered racist. Heck, if things carry on like this, in a couple of years, saying something like a black person is black will be considerd racist and any study of culture will be considered racist...:cool:

What Amnell said is FINE. And I agree with him. If I go to Japan, I hope I don't hear too much English or any of the languages I speak. No doubt there will be foreigners, but thats not the point. It's like the people that go on foreign exchange programs to hang around people from their country... What's the point? Stay home if you're not going abroad to experience new cultures and languages...:cool:

He didn't make any remarks about a certain race being inferior or superior. Only saying one doesn't like/want to hear a certain language _IS NOT RACIST_. Also it's understandable (if perhaps not possible) that, if you travel across to the other side of the world, you want it to be as different as possible from home. I'm the same way.

I know and understood what he wrote in his first post, and apparently so did you. So I don't understand why it is necessary to try and make someone out to be a racist that apparently is not (based on what we've seen him write, anyways).

The only thing he said about mexicans before you mentioned them, was that he asked about the popularity of mexican food.

Anyways what I wanted to point out was that even if saying the things he did would make him naive, elitist, asshole, whatever (not saying it does) - it still wouldn't make him _racist_.

I do, however, think it's a totally pointless thing to bother with and I can kind of understand you also MMM, so don't think I'm just out to get you or anything!

Sorry for the rant.

There's a popular Mexican-influenced dish in Okinawa called Taco rice. I guess it came from the Mexican Americans at the American bases in Okinawa. I'm not sure though. It's very popular here.

And to answer the original question, yes, there are Mexicans in Japan. I'm half Mexican and I'm living in Japan.

:P That makes me wish my mom had gone overseas with my dad...Taco RIce sounds good. And I would know how to speak Japanese...oh well.
And I'm not mexican but I know some of the language but I don't live in Japan...

Some heated argument about who's racist and what's racist.

Let's just say that there won't be that many Mexicans in Japan so let's just relax.

Spanish speakers from different countries have different accents so just let it be if you run into them somewhere.

Also, I do not get pissed but get somewhat disappointed when I run into other Japanese tourists so maybe that's what Amnell meant to say as well.

Americans are so sensitive about rasism...

I wish everywhere was like Brazil.

I'm not the one who said "I don't mean to sound racist, but..." Amnell did. My point still stands. People that say "I don't mean to sound racist, but..." usually end up saying something racist. I am not saying Amnell is burning crosses in peoples backyard...my point was only what I just stated and I didn't intend that side observation to become a big deal. You have now called me pedantic for the 3rd or 4th time. Is that a record?

Amnell isn't talking about English or any of the languages he speaks. He didn't say he didn't want to hear foreingn tongues in Japan, he specifically said "Spanish". If you said "I want to go to Japan, but I sure hope I don't hear any Korean" I would say say the same comment. Don't make excuses for what he said.

I did not nor would not call Amnell a racist. Let's all take a deep breath and settle down.

I did understand what he meant to say, but was pointing out that what we mean to say and what comes out are sometimes different.

If I was Mexican and read what he said, I wouldn't be amused, would you?

Is that so? And when did I call you pedantic before this? Even if I did, is that really such a bad thing? It seems to be in your nature to be draconian, and have things said or done correctly, but sometimes, it's a bit too far. It seems that this is a common trait among the older members on this forum as shown in several threads so far. e.g. the one where the kid asked about what was popular amoungst asians.

And, one other thing, this thread is about mexicans. Spanish is spoken in Mexico, hence the comment about spanish speakers.

Creo que usted encontrará más de los mexicanos en Japón. Supongo que mi pregunta para todos los latinoamericanos es ¿cómo terminan allí, por qué, y qué hacer que os guste? Sé que tengo familiares en Australia (soy salvatrucha-americana) y se han adaptado bien allí. Y como para ese comentario acerca de no querer escuchar una lengua determinada en el extranjero ... bueno, lamentablemente, se encuentra la ignorancia de todo el mundo.

Yes, it is so.

You called me pedantic several times on other threads...it doesn't really matter.

If wanting things to be said or done correctly makes me draconian, then I am draconian. If that is my worst trait, then I will wear it with a badge of honor.

The question about what was popular in Asia is just as stupid as it sounds. I won't apologize for that one either.

Spanish is spoken in Mexico and all over the world. Guess what, go to Japan and you are going to see Chinese, Koreans, Indians, Thai, Americans and people from all over the world. Japan isn't a little secret anymore.

I didn't intend for Anmell's little comment and my little response to become an international incident. I was mostly commenting on the nature of the comment, but I still beleive what I said, and if I was a Spanish speaker I would be bothered by it.

Convengo con usted.

Regardless if you're racist or not with a comment like that you look like a some sort of stuck up white prick who sits back and blames mexicans for every problem in the states.

Perhaps choose better wording next time or add in a little extra.
You could've mentioned the same thing about English in this post and saved yourself the drama.
And never mention, " I don't mean to be.." because that ticks off people more.
You seem like you're just covering your ass over a rude comment.
That from what I read, you didn't mean to be rude in the first place.

Wow, I don't think I've had more assumptions made about my linguistic ability or my place of residence so many times in... ever.

MMM, I do speak Spanish. I am not a fluent speaker, certainly. But I do have some ability. Four high school and one college class saw to that. No hay dudo que puedo hablar un poquito del español.

Also, I don't live in Southern California. Southern California is as much a Disneyland playground to me as is Japan, though it's more like the Toon Town, and I want to go to Space Mountain, y'know? SOCAL is like a six hour trip south on U.S. Interstate 5 for me. Yep, California is a big fricken' state. Whoodathunkit?

Anyway, if you're whole issue was with that I stated that I wasn't trying to be racist, then I think that's kinda stupid. EveV kindly pointed out that it may make my position seem like it holds some guilt for me, but when I wrote it, I wrote under the assumption that SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE on the wide wide web would be over-sensitive enough to take offense at that. And go figure, the irony, that my trying to avoid THAT is what actually did me in :rolleyes: .

This is why I hate politicians. Well, actually, I just hate people that concern themselves overmuch with this shite. They're all so concerned with making sure they won't offend anybody that they get tongue-tied trying to say the simplest things, and then get all panty-bunched when someone comes along and in no uncertain terms speaks their mind out loud!

And I really don't see how not expecting to hear a language in a country where over 98% of the people there speak a very different language makes anyone ignorant :P . Hell, I went to Hawaii a few years back and was surprised to see a group of kids body surfing all jabbering in Spanish. It made me feel right at home, really, which was a rather unwelcome feeling since I was on vacation. If there is a definition of 'ignorant' that fits that, then I apparently can't speak English very well. Or maybe there's a definition of 'ignorancia' in Spanish that I'm not aware of, which is quite possible.

I feel like I need to further clarify my stance: I don't dislike the Spanish language at all. It is the first foreign language I learned, I love speaking it, I loved every minute of learning it. I don't have a problem with people who speak it as their first language--why would I? I kinda wish that people would stop coming over the border illegally, but then again it's not exclusively Spanish speakers that do that, nor does it directly affect my quality of life in any way that I'm aware of. I just wouldn't like to go on vacation and get the sense that I haven't really gone anywhere.

On the other hand, vacationing in Spain would be neat because I'd be hearing a lot of Spanish with spatterings of English, which would be a contrast rather than just a difference as would be lots of Japanese with spatterings of Spanish.

So. This has been an interesting international incident. *sigh*

I think I made my statements pretty clear, so I don't feel the need to repeat.

My bad then. But I kinda got the vibe that you called him a racist because you pointed out he was saying "blatantly racist" things (which is usually what a racist would do).

I am calm, sorry if that didn't show.

I don't know how I would feel if i was mexican, as I am not. If however he was living somewhere in the US with a high swedish population (this may be true somewhere?), I would not care at all that he wanted to get away from my language. This is obviously not the same thing, but it's all I can speak for.

I would however like it if a real mexican person could give us his view ,)

Anyways, I don't think Amnell was racist, is a racist, or has said anything racist. He said he wanted to get away from familiar things, one being the spanish language that is a part of the everyday life where he lives. I don't see any problems with that.

Is it really racist to be sick of an illegal invasion of people who come to your country or state and hold contempt for it, refuse to learn english or follow the law, but expect plenty of free services at taxpayer expense. If you lived in California, Texas or Arizona. maybe ...

It's ok to dislike some parts of another culture, or all of it at that. I'm tired of people labeling others as racist just for having an oppinion of an aspect of another culture or a dislike of the current political/social trends.

Talk about manipulating my words and Amnell's words into political punditry...

Calling someone a racist and pointing out a statement they made can be percieved as racist is two very very different things.

Hardly. Maybe in downtown Tokyo, not everywhere else where most people have never even met a foreigner.

You started hinting at things by stating that the person who originally made the statement was from southern california and bringing certain ethnicities. You opened that box!

Well over a million foreigners live in Japan.

There are many places in the US where Americans have not met a foreigner as well.

I didn't intend to "hint" at anything. I said what I meant in a straight-forward manner. If you read more into it then that is not my fault. I don't know what "bringing certain ethnicites" means.

No you didn't. Even did some backpeddling.