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bhl88 08-29-2010 02:51 PM

They are using this to stay in Japan:

Moe Military alliance manga (USA-gi-kun and Arai Anzu [Alliance])



Ronin4hire 08-29-2010 03:02 PM

How lame...

dogsbody70 08-29-2010 04:23 PM

MMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmm just a brief history of okinawa--

OKINAWA HISTORY



it suffered during the war, then run by America--

does anything ever change?


There were many protest recently about the american prescence there,

it brought the PM down now they have Kan but seems no changes as far as the Bases are concerned.

evanny 08-29-2010 05:01 PM

well there are still 50 000 american troops in germany...i guess noone told them that hitler was cought :D
also - what do you expect - they alone spend more money on military than the next top 15 countries togather (russia+china+uk+..+..+) because if they didnt and called back all of the troops from all over the world they would have HUGE unemployment since they dont make anything and people simply wouldnt have jobs.

bhl88 08-29-2010 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 826459)
How lame...

I agree but if they trust that one cause of the images I posted, then all faith in humanity is lost cause they trust 2D characters...

cranks 08-29-2010 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dogsbody70 (Post 826466)
MMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmm just a brief history of okinawa--

OKINAWA HISTORY

it suffered during the war, then run by America--

does anything ever change?

There were many protest recently about the american prescence there,

it brought the PM down now they have Kan but seems no changes as far as the Bases are concerned.

Well, Ryukyu Kingdom itself invaded surrounding island kingdoms, and it's not like Hirshima and Nagasaki didn't suffer. It is true Okinawa has a bit more unique history compared with other Japanese regions and it probably suffered the most during the war, but I don't think it is appropriate to draw a picture that Japan and Ryukyu are 2 completely different entities and the later has been suffering because of the former. The thing is, Okinawa is located at a strategically important location and if it's not the US military's, we need Japanese bases there anyway. I personally think we should reduce the US military's presence in Japan too, but to do so, Japan needs to be more militarily autonomous, but these anti-American base people are pretty much ignorant of military balance and international politics and thus can't think that far. They are like "We hate military. Military is bad. because they are bad". I think a lot of them need to wise up and start talking like adults if they want to get to the bottom of this issue.

dogsbody70 08-31-2010 03:35 PM

I thought that there had been an agreement that Japan would not have military facilities after the ww2. Nobody wants a repeat of that at all.

dogsbody70 08-31-2010 03:36 PM

its simply a case of knowing a little more about the island's history.

Ronin4hire 09-01-2010 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dogsbody70 (Post 826789)
I thought that there had been an agreement that Japan would not have military facilities after the ww2. Nobody wants a repeat of that at all.

If I remember correctly (according to statistics I looked up a while back), Japan actually has a more powerful and sophisticated military than countries like Britain and France, and is capable of repelling a military attack from China on its own. The only difference is that Japan calls it a "self defense force" rather than a "military".

I get the feeling that you dont know much about Japan or the East Asian region as the chances of Japan "repeating" their previous expansionist policies anytime soon are almost nil.

Furthermore, crank is right. Treating Japan and Okinawa like different countries in a POLITICAL context is not practical and it sounds like you are confusing history with politics.

dogsbody70 09-02-2010 01:19 PM

ah seems like I am having another lecture in history.

Please don't assume so much as you do.

why don't you educate me.

I have read many books about the war---don't pretend I know everything.


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