Bonsai!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dogsbody70]

those trees look incredible. Its strange really. My japanese friend tells me that all plants have feelings that they cry.


I am no expert at all on plants--

it does make sense though that if the tree were unhappy that it would not thrive.

It surely is a great skill to train these trees to follow the path set up by its MASTER/Mistress.


I don' tknow about the history of BONSAI. Would it be that there was very little space to allow trees to develop as nature intended?

You will notice I am totally ignorant but truly fascinated and an admirer of the way that NATURE can be moulded. I guess that with skill that is the case with so much of nature isn't it?

We do have to mould and direct. manipulate to encourage a supply of food for the world.

I agree that to keep a large dog in a small flat is not good.Neither are so many things in this world.


thanks again.

[File0]

Originally Posted by dogsbody70

those trees look incredible. Its strange really. My japanese friend tells me that all plants have feelings that they cry.


I am no expert at all on plants--

it does make sense though that if the tree were unhappy that it would not thrive.

It surely is a great skill to train these trees to follow the path set up by its MASTER/Mistress.


I don' tknow about the history of BONSAI. Would it be that there was very little space to allow trees to develop as nature intended?

You will notice I am totally ignorant but truly fascinated and an admirer of the way that NATURE can be moulded. I guess that with skill that is the case with so much of nature isn't it?

We do have to mould and direct. manipulate to encourage a supply of food for the world.

I agree that to keep a large dog in a small flat is not good.Neither are so many things in this world.


thanks again.

You're welcome!

I have to note that I'm not very good at English, so please be patient if I mistook something what you say.

As I know in Japan many research intend to discover various responses, given by various "unanimated" sources. I have a book about water molecules' reactions. It's written by one Japanese author, who'd made the microscopic photos to prove it makes different 'faces' if it receives different influences (sometimes only a written sentence made the affect). Also I've heard that they tried to prove the 'feeling plant' theory with some + results. Of course it's kind of silly, but I can give place to it. Everything has some response to what it might contact, that is one proven fact. I think it's up to us that, how may we call it -- a reaction of a soul or the chemicals...-it's a beatable sentence, but I don't have other reasons.

As for the bonsai's history, I really don't know much, I can give you the Chinese name: penjing. It may help to discover some facts about the past of bonsai.
It's true though, that many bonsai were originally collected from a place that was 'hostile' to its occupants, I can imagine that Japan has many of those, for rocks and thin soil not very rare there. That is an example from the US:collecting have fun with it!

[dogsbody70]

thankyou again. Very fascinating indeed.

Nature really is incredible.

[GoNative]

Originally Posted by dogsbody70

it does make sense though that if the tree were unhappy that it would not thrive.
.

Do you really believe that plants have feelings like happiness?

[protheus]

Have you been a plant to know they don't have any?
Until recently it was thought that fishes don't feel pain, and it has proved to be very far from truth.

There is a lot we don't know, we just assume we know.

[File0]

Originally Posted by GoNative

Do you really believe that plants have feelings like happiness?

Even if you aren't religious, living in Japan ought to have had some affect on you by now.
'Happy' is just a word to express one process, you don't need to tease others because you don't entirely agree the way they speak.

[GoNative]

I wasn't teasing. It was a genuine question.

[GoNative]

Originally Posted by protheus

Have you been a plant to know they don't have any?
Until recently it was thought that fishes don't feel pain, and it has proved to be very far from truth.

There is a lot we don't know, we just assume we know.

Plants neither have a central nervous system or brain like animals do. There's nothing to feel with or process the sensation of feeling something even if they could. Can plants react to exterior stuimuli? Yes of course they can but attempting to link these reactions to something akin to human pain or emotions is a pretty big stretch considering the incredible physiological differences between animals and plants.

[File0]

Originally Posted by GoNative

Plants neither have a central nervous system or brain like animals do. There's nothing to feel with or process the sensation of feeling something even if they could. Can plants react to exterior stuimuli? Yes of course they can but attempting to link these reactions to something akin to human pain or emotions is a pretty big stretch considering the incredible physiological differences between animals and plants.

It hasn't much to do with bonsai anymore!

From when does a reaction which absolutely has +or- marker, considered to be feeling?
Can you be absolutely sure that nature/plant have never suffered the way we often treat it.

Having a bonsai in your home surely would give you more experience in this field. Than you'd see with your own eye.

[GoNative]

Well I did run a landscape design and construction business (it was called Go Native Landscapes as we specialised in native and indigenous plant species) for quite a number of years and my wife majored in botany at university. I do have some experience with plants