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[Celte]

Originally Posted by GoNative

The French have a political agenda in regards to their advice which is not based on science whatsoever. Unfortunately since the bloody French overeaction all other countries have to cover their arses and attempt not to look like they ere abandoning their citizens when the French are doing all they can. All the French have done is add to the fearmongering. Frankly I'm happy to say adieu to the lot of em!!

The French (gov) have actually the exact opposite agenda of what you say.

And the fearmongering you're talking about, it's the exact opposite agenda of the european medias. They are actually telling people not to worry, everything is ok.

Here i'm just a citizen... Do you mean i have a political agenda ? That's funny.

So look :
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My thoughts and prayers for the japanese people. Sorry if i said something that may hurt your feelings. I thought plain numbers were enough, but obviously they aren't when you face denial.

[godwine]

Originally Posted by Celte

The French (gov) have actually the exact opposite agenda of what you say.

And the fearmongering you're talking about, it's the exact opposite agenda of the european medias. They are actually telling people not to worry, everything is ok.

Here i'm just a citizen... Do you mean i have a political agenda ? That's funny.

So look :
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My thoughts and prayers for the japanese people. Sorry if i said something that may hurt your feelings. I thought plain numbers were enough, but obviously they aren't when you face denial.

Nobody is in denial, everyone knows how bad this already is and how much worse it can get. The effort dump into it is to stop it from going to the WORSE end of the spectrum

All that we are saying is that, while there are people working hard to save the world, we shouldn't be sitting here spreading fear and panics. If people want to leave, then leave, but it shouldn't be an "Evacuation", because it is not necessary at this point, evacuating 70% of japan's population will be chaotic, definitely not something we need now if we can control the situation

Too many countries are trying to act like a hero with their 2 cents, people are suffering right now, the most important thing is to save the people and control the situation, not to recommend extreme measures to cause further trouble for Japan.....

[Celte]

Originally Posted by godwine

All that we are saying is that, while there are people working hard to save the world, we shouldn't be sitting here spreading fear and panics. If people want to leave, then leave, but it shouldn't be an "Evacuation", because it is not necessary at this point, evacuating 70% of japan's population will be chaotic, definitely not something we need now if we can control the situation

OK i get your point. I wouldn't want to be so arrogant as to say, do this do that because i'm not here.

I just thought the document from the Criirad, for once an independant source, was valuable information to share, but again everyone seems to be on the nerve, which i understand.

Wish you luck, and good winds.

[protheus]

If the situation is so apocalyptic as described in the media, this is bad, we need to leave at least a safety area of about 510.065.600 km². We will move all the people to the Moon and Mars to be on the safe side and we will come back in a few thousand years if they stop the meltdown by then.

[SButler]

As you know Russians usually have a countryside house for the weekends. So do I. My house in Central Russia(1000 km from Moscow,50 km from regional capital), 1 km from local mineral springs resorts, very picturesque place, a lot of conifer forests around. We have a very nice weather from May till October here. So if you suffered from radiation you can stay and recover in my home, no charge of course. There is Russian sauna too.

[GoNative]

Originally Posted by SButler

As you know Russians usually have a countryside house for the weekends. So do I. My house in Central Russia(1000 km from Moscow,50 km from regional capital), 1 km from local mineral springs resorts, very picturesque place, a lot of conifer forests around. We have a very nice weather from May till October here. So if you suffered from radiation you can stay and recover in my home, no charge of course. There is Russian sauna too.

No one besides a very few number of people who have been working at the reactors themselves have been exposed to potentially harmful radiation. As their efforts are continuing I don't think you'll be receiving anyone who has been affected by radiation anytime soon. Nice thought though. Actually my wife and I were looking to go on a vacation and your place sounds pretty damned nice!

[Nyororin]

Originally Posted by GoNative

No one besides a very few number of people who have been working at the reactors themselves have been exposed to potentially harmful radiation. As their efforts are continuing I don't think you'll be receiving anyone who has been affected by radiation anytime soon. Nice thought though. Actually my wife and I were looking to go on a vacation and your place sounds pretty damned nice!

I was thinking the same thing! No radiation here, but that sounds like an excellent vacation spot.

[bluejeanslady]

its unbelieveable, but the japanese under-estimate totally what atomic science and radiation is, they are completely uninformed ... so, they donnot know anything and therefore they are sitting there ... and this is unbelieveable for me, i am really shocked .. for what they use the internet .. there is a bird, he put the head in den sand and things he will not see, this is not real ... we name it: vogel strauß taktik ... thats it ...

in fukushima i see no plan, no idea, no solution .. only confused and helpless action ... they would have had asked the worldwide specialist for atom sciene from the first day on to make the situation clear and have a good plan ... now one week is gone, nobody is really saved who are not clever enough to leave by himself ... if they would have a realistic plan at the beginning they would have saved 1/3 (10-15 million) up to today with international help of course ... thats more than nothing, which is it now ... about this i am mostly shocked ... complete wrong way ... they have had one week to save lives .. lost time now ... i will never understand ...

[GoNative]

Originally Posted by bluejeanslady

its unbelieveable, but the japanese under-estimate totally what atomic science and radiation is, they are completely uninformed ... so, they donnot know anything and therefore they are sitting there ... and this is unbelieveable for me, i am really shocked .. for what they use the internet .. there is a bird, he put the head in den sand and things he will not see, this is not real ... we name it: vogel strauß taktik ... thats it ...

in fukushima i see no plan, no idea, no solution .. only confused and helpless action ... they would have had asked the worldwide specialist for atom sciene from the first day on to make the situation clear and have a good plan ... now one week is gone, nobody is really saved who are not clever enough to leave by himself ... if they would have a realistic plan at the beginning they would have saved 1/3 (10-15 million) up to today with international help of course ... thats more than nothing, which is it now ... about this i am mostly shocked ... complete wrong way ... they have had one week to save lives .. lost time now ... i will never understand ...

Where are you from? What media do you listen to? You clearly have no idea of what you are talking about. No idea whatsoever. Please just stop posting on things you know nothing about.

[Nyororin]

You do realize that all the destruction and damage in Japan was caused by an earthquake and tsunami, right?
All those deaths are due to the natural disaster, not the reactor issues.

People are not falling over and dying from the radiation.

Seriously - if 10-15 million people were a mere 1/3rd of the people dead, wow. I think we`d have heard about the 30-45 million dead. Or do you mean that 30-45 million people are going to die from this?

People in Japan do not have their heads in the sand about the effects of radiation. Quite the opposite, in fact, which is the whole reason WHY they aren`t running screaming from the country.

Seriously, this is turning into a wonderful example of how a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. There are so many people coming out of the woodwork with a thimble full of information, thinking of themselves as experts.