呼びます, 招待します, 誘います

[Maxful]

Thanks alot, masaegu san.

[Maxful]

Originally Posted by masaegu

誘う　is always casual. You don't 誘う people to a wedding. You can only 誘う people to the bar, to a hiking trip, to a poetry reading, a casual pot-luck, etc. The location may be "to the inviter" if that's where he lives/works/stays at or it may be somewhere else.

Hi masaegu san. I have another question regarding 誘う. Let's say I am invited by Nick (the host) to his wedding and that makes it:

"(私は)Nickさんに結婚式に招待しました/呼びました."
(I was invited by Nick to his wedding ceremony.)

But what if I invited Tom to the wedding ceremony as well? Since I am not the inviter in the first place, can I use 誘う (when inviting Tom) even though the wedding isn't a casual thing?

[Maxful]

The reason why I asked this is because I doubt that we can use 招待する and 呼ぶ if we are not the host or sponsor to begin with.

[masaegu]

Originally Posted by Maxful

Hi masaegu san. I have another question regarding 誘う. Let's say I am invited by Nick (the host) to his wedding and that makes it:

"(私は)Nickさんに結婚式に招待しました/呼びました."
(I was invited by Nick to his wedding ceremony.)

That Japanese sentence is incorrect. Wanna try correcting it?

Hint: Look at the last part carefully. It isn't in the right voice.

But what if I invited Tom to the wedding ceremony as well? Since I am not the inviter in the first place, can I use 誘う (when inviting Tom) even though the wedding isn't a casual thing?

In Japan, that just doesn't happen. "I'm invited to Nick's wedding. Wanna come along with me?" This is simply an impossible line over here. If this can happen in your country, then you can use 誘う.

[Maxful]

Originally Posted by masaegu

That Japanese sentence is incorrect. Wanna try correcting it?

Hint: Look at the last part carefully. It isn't in the right voice.




In Japan, that just doesn't happen. "I'm invited to Nick's wedding. Wanna come along with me?" This is simply an impossible line over here. If this can happen in your country, then you can use 誘う.

My mistake. I have forgotten to alter it into passive.


"(私は)Nickさんに結婚式に招待されました/呼ばれました."


As for the second question. So am I right to say that I have to stick with "呼びました" even though I am not the first inviter (host/sponsor).

私はTomさんを結婚式に呼ばれました。
I invited Tom to the wedding ceremony.

[masaegu]

Originally Posted by Maxful

My mistake. I have forgotten to alter it into passive.

"(私は)Nickさんに結婚式に招待されました/呼ばれました."

Perfect!

As for the second question. So am I right to say that I have to stick with "呼びました" even though I am not the first inviter (host/sponsor).

No, you cannot use 呼びました if you aren't the host or member of the host's family.

私はTomさんを結婚式に呼ばれました。
I invited Tom to the wedding ceremony.

Hmmm. Again a mistake in the voice in the Japanese sentence.

[Maxful]

Araa! This time I used passive when I shouldn't.

私はTomさんを結婚式に呼びました。



As for I invited Tom to the wedding ceremony (not as host/sponsor.)

I guess the correct saying will be:

私はTomさんを結婚式に誘いました。

[masaegu]

Originally Posted by Maxful

私はTomさんを結婚式に呼びました。

Correct.

As for I invited Tom to the wedding ceremony (not as host/sponsor.)

I guess the correct saying will be:

私はTomさんを結婚式に誘いました。

Correct.

The sentence is 100% grammatical but would this happen in your country, though? It would be unthinkable in Japan, where you need to be formally invited by snail mail to attend a wedding.

[Maxful]

"私はTomさんを結婚式に誘いました。" Is that how you will say it in Japan too? My ex-teacher used to told me that Japanese don't speak like how we learn in school.

[masaegu]

Originally Posted by Maxful

"私はTomさんを結婚式に誘いました。" Is that how you will say it in Japan too? My ex-teacher used to told me that Japanese don't speak like how we learn in school.

We don't seem to be communicating too well today.

We don't say it because it's not in our custom to casually say to someone, "Hey, I'm attending Bob's wedding this weekend. You wanna come along?"

But as far as GRAMMAR, that sentence is 100% correct.

Even though we won't actually say it as it isn't in our custom, the more natural way of saying it will be 「トムを結婚式に誘っといた。」