...going to Japan and THEN getting a work visa?!

[anrakushi]

why is everything about money? sigh... why do people think money before other things. people could want a good way to experience a different culture. others do it as a stepping stone, get into japan, do the eikaiwa thing, get your japanese level up then move into other industries.

yes i could be earning twice as much in australia in a graduate position but is that the life i want to live? no.

anyway nova paid in the between 220000 to 280000 yen per month from looking at their salaries a month or so ago. there is no way nova was paying 350000 yen per month which is roughly US$3,500. other places tend to pay between 190000 and 260000 with some paying above that.

As for NOVA staff lets not forget there simply weren't enough positions ready for them when it all went bust. many students lost a lot of money due to nova and may not have been wanting or ready to go to another eikaiwa. the other schools needed time after the collapse to understand the new demand from students and plan new schools, get them set up and running etc. these things have a way of repairing themselves but it takes time, and i would believe things would be starting to correct themselves now.

also considering my eikaiwa i did the part time work at had people from the owner right down to the japanese admin staff, no to mention the students themselves bagging not only NOVA but also their staff it is no wonder places weren't keen on taking all their staff. of all the students i went to university with in Japan that i talked about eikaiwa with, they all told me to stay away from teaching at Nova because they thought it was a bad place from their own experience.

[KeNjouRi]

i didnt quite get it
i did also decide to come japan for 3 month and after that time surely more..
but is that true what i did read you did say that :
''yes you can get a working visa when you are in japan'' is that means i have to find a job inside 3 months or just i can work for 3 months ? it is very important for me .. i ll look forward for the answers..

[SSJup81]

Originally Posted by anrakushi

why is everything about money? sigh... why do people think money before other things.

I think people want to know that they'll be able to afford staying there and able to pay for the necessities (food, a place to stay, transportation) not just getting by from paycheck to paycheck. I know I'd like to be reassured that I'll be okay if living in another country, and that my wages will be enough for the things I'll need.

people could want a good way to experience a different culture.

I'm sure a lot do, but I'm also certain that they want financial security, so that they won't end up going broke just to get the necessities.

[KeNjouRi]

Somebody Answer Please

[anrakushi]

the 3 months is a tourist visa, you need to get a working visa in that time.

SSJup81, no company is going to pay you so little you can't get buy because otherwise how could they keep the english teachers. I was disputing the fact about not even going to japan because the money is bad blah blah. not everyone cares about having lots of money. those of you who are used to spending and being typical consumers then you might have trouble on the lower wages but i think the salaries are more than enough to live and enjoy your time in Japan.

[KeNjouRi]

yes my friend thanks and i am asking :
is that possible to get working visa while i am in japan for 3 months ?


you said yes i guess but just a sentence so it isnt clear still its mysterious everybody says just a sentence like its not cool to ask about it
SHOULD I APPLY FOR WORKING VISA BEFORE I FIND JOB?
should i go and tell to the japanese consulant that i would like to get a working visa ?
because when you search for a job online most of em wants working visa permit so ..
(by the way im turkish so i dont need visa to stay in japan for 3 months..)

[blimp]

Originally Posted by KeNjouRi

yes my friend thanks and i am asking :
is that possible to get working visa while i am in japan for 3 months ?


you said yes i guess but just a sentence so it isnt clear still its mysterious everybody says just a sentence like its not cool to ask about it
SHOULD I APPLY FOR WORKING VISA BEFORE I FIND JOB?
should i go and tell to the japanese consulant that i would like to get a working visa ?
because when you search for a job online most of em wants working visa permit so ..
(by the way im turkish so i dont need visa to stay in japan for 3 months..)

kenjouri, u can't apply for a work visa without having a job. a company have to sponsor u. now, there r different types of visas and some of them includes visas where u don't have to be sponsored by a company and still be able to work, but from what i have read on our previous posts they will not be applicable to u. (i might be wrong on this one). anyway have a look at this link for all the types.

linky linky

lastly, and someone will have to correct me if i am wrong, isn't there usually a minimum salary that the company that sponsors u have to pay, i/e/ 250,000 yen?

[SSJup81]

Originally Posted by anrakushi

SSJup81, no company is going to pay you so little you can't get buy....

Now if only America was like that. Here I am, going on 27 years old, and I still can't afford to move out of my parents' home. Apartments are way too costly around here and seems that the subsidized ones are mostly for those on "assistance".

[KeNjouRi]

ok thanks my friend
my situation is very simple actually . a moving away story
i just want to do what i want to do right not not when i am 60..
i wanna come to japan and find a work there discover japan and live there.
im also calling the japan consulant of turkey but the phone is always busy anyway i did get good stuff to learn before i speak em .
so if i find a job while i am in japan for 3 months i can apply for working visa..
thats a hope and i ve gotta brave. any help would be great about it from people who are in japan i would like to get in touch with mature people