Getting Drunk?

[Nemhy]

was looking through some write-ups of Japanese culture and I came across some stuff that I thought was pretty intresting. Is it really a big thing to go to a bar with co-workers and friends? I know that yes, even in other countries "Bar fun" is popular but the write up made it seem like it means something special in Japan. Am I just over thinking this? (like I do with most things)

[MMM]

Originally Posted by Nemhy

was looking through some write-ups of Japanese culture and I came across some stuff that I thought was pretty intresting. Is it really a big thing to go to a bar with co-workers and friends? I know that yes, even in other countries "Bar fun" is popular but the write up made it seem like it means something special in Japan. Am I just over thinking this? (like I do with most things)

Yes, it is quite common to have dinner and drinks with colleagues or business partners after work. There is an after-5 business culture that exists in Japan that doesn't in the US. I don't know if it is "special" and I don't know if it is always "fun" but it does exist

[Nemhy]

If you wouldn't mind, could you please go into the detail about the "after-5" buissness culture?

[MMM]

Originally Posted by Nemhy

If you wouldn't mind, could you please go into the detail about the "after-5" buissness culture?

There have been books written about it. Basically, in Japanese business culture there is a sense of needing to know a person you are doing business on a personal level. This takes time and much one-on-one face time. Sharing food and alcohol is one way to speed up the process. You can know a person's true self after a few drinks, and the "social lubricant" can benefit or (or destroy) a business relationship.

Sometimes Westerners make the mistake of going to Japan to do business, and turn down offers of dinner, thinking "after 5 is my time". It isn't uncommon for the REAL business to start then. It isn't uncommon for important decisions to be made over drinks rather than in a boardroom.

[Nemhy]

Originally Posted by MMM

There have been books written about it. Basically, in Japanese business culture there is a sense of needing to know a person you are doing business on a personal level. This takes time and much one-on-one face time. Sharing food and alcohol is one way to speed up the process. You can know a person's true self after a few drinks, and the "social lubricant" can benefit or (or destroy) a business relationship.

Sometimes Westerners make the mistake of going to Japan to do business, and turn down offers of dinner, thinking "after 5 is my time". It isn't uncommon for the REAL business to start then. It isn't uncommon for important decisions to be made over drinks rather than in a boardroom.

Thats pretty intresting. Any books you would reccomend? Thanks for the quick responses and sorry if i'm asking to many questions. =X

[MMM]

Originally Posted by Nemhy

Thats pretty intresting. Any books you would reccomend? Thanks for the quick responses and sorry if i'm asking to many questions. =X

I like "Saying Yes to Japan" but if you search "Japanese Business Culture" on Amazon you can find a bunch. Just don't buy something more than a few years old.

[Nemhy]

Thank you for all the help!

[coolforcats1]

Wow all this sounds so interesting! I might have to go read up about it!

[Tsuwabuki]

I was at one of these a few weeks ago. All the teachers who knew each other roasted one another, even the principal and vice principal, and then I had to stand up and sing in Japanese while mocking everyone's English skills.

This is COMPLETELY different from any business dinners I had ever gone to with companies in the states.

[noodle]

Uh-oh! I wonder what they would think of someone that came out to one of these dinners but didn't drink any alcohol... I don't drink alcohol at all!