Inter-racial attraction

[mercedesjin]

最初の投稿者：bELyVIS

How am I racist? You were the one upset that you felt other races thought black people less attractive. I have seen many attractive black women. Wouldn't you say it is racist to assume another race finds your race unattractive? You are the one with the problem about your race. No one here said anything bad that I remember and certainly not I.
How am I sexist? I never said women were inferior. My whole thing about relationships goes back to how traditional relationships were and are based, the man is the head of the family. The reason that this is a problem nowadays is that men are still being taught this role while women are being taught to be independent. This makes the man feel like he has failed in his role. Equal roles in this relationship will cause a power struggle. Now I am not saying women can't be equal in this relationship, most women know how to persuade a man to give into her thinking. This has been happening since the beginning of time and still does. My wife is very skilled at this and she gets her way without making my role feel threatened.
Did you not claim you were gay and then bisexual? Why would submitting to a man be a part of these relationships? I never said that you have to submit to anyone so quit putting words into my mouth. Even in gay relationships one takes a dominant role and the other submissive. Too equals will again cause a power struggle. You need to find out which you prefer and go from there. I know what I am, but you can't seem to make up your mind. I understand sexuality just fine, thank you.
As far as my saying "get over it", you are the only one who can change your view of the world. Sure, there are always people who will find something to dislike you for like race or weight, or you wear glasses, whatever. But only you can allow them to affect you. We are all guilty of this and just need to try to "get over it".
Like I said, the world is what you make of it.
I and many here can sense your anger. Why not do something creative with it instead of trying to make everyone see your way only and lashing out at strangers on the Internet?

LO fucking L. Seriously? Dude, seriously? Seriously. Okay. I have been attacked and insulted on this forum left and right. I'm sick of it. And, when I dish a little bit of it back out, people flip the fuck out. Oh Lord. Oh Christ. If I weren't so annoyed, I'd think that was hilarious.

I said you were racist because you don't seem to think that my heritage amounts to anything. I said you were sexist because you've just spent the last couple of pages trying to convince me that women should take the traditional, inferior role of woman for a relationship to work. I'm a woman. I've been with men before. As far as I'm concerned, you automatically put me under the category of "woman" and the apparent requirement that I consider myself inferior.

You're still trying to argue with me about my own sexuality. I think even you can see how silly that is.

I and many modern-day scholars strongly agree with your idea of queer men and women needing to have someone who takes the dominant role. That role is something that stems from heterosexuality. These couples are not heterosexual. They automatically break out of traditional roles. It's true that some, unfortunately, see heterosexual couples and believe that they must mold their own relationship on the idea that one must go out and make money while the other stays home. Most, however, break out of those boundaries and seek true equality.

Thank God no one from the past took the advice you're trying to give me, because I'd be out working the plantation fields right now if they did.

As for "creative" outlets: I've worked with filmmaking, I sell paintings, I'm a teacher's assistant so that I can positively influence student's lives everyday, and I'm working to get published. What's with people on the Internet assuming that they know every little thing about me?

[Koir]

最初の投稿者：mercedesjin

What's with people on the Internet assuming that they know every little thing about me?

What's with you turning every little thing into a race debate with you in the right and everyone else (having a different opinion) in the wrong?

[mercedesjin]

最初の投稿者：Koir

What's with you turning every little thing into a race debate with you in the right and everyone else (having a different opinion) in the wrong?

...You do realize that you're in a thread titled "Inter-racial attraction." Meaning the discussion is about race and has been about race for the dozens of pages before I even started posting.

The thing is, I post my own opinion. Then people reply. Those people think that I'm wrong. That's usually what makes them want to reply to me in the first place. There are many people who disagree with me in this thread, all thinking that they're right and that I'm wrong. Why am I the one that's so controversial to you? Why don't you go and question the people who so adamantly disagree with me wherever I go, and wherever I post?

Honestly, I would prefer it if I could go onto one thread - just one - and post my opinion without being asked to defend my opinion constantly. But, since I can't get that, I guess I shouldn't complain - like how I think you shouldn't complain when I speak my mind. If it's so annoying, just ignore me.

[bELyVIS]

最初の投稿者：mercedesjin

LO fucking L. Seriously? Dude, seriously? Seriously. Okay. I have been attacked and insulted on this forum left and right. I'm sick of it. And, when I dish a little bit of it back out, people flip the fuck out. Oh Lord. Oh Christ. If I weren't so annoyed, I'd think that was hilarious.

I said you were racist because you don't seem to think that my heritage amounts to anything. I said you were sexist because you've just spent the last couple of pages trying to convince me that women should take the traditional, inferior role of woman for a relationship to work. I'm a woman. I've been with men before. As far as I'm concerned, you automatically put me under the category of "woman" and the apparent requirement that I consider myself inferior.

You're still trying to argue with me about my own sexuality. I think even you can see how silly that is.

I and many modern-day scholars strongly agree with your idea of queer men and women needing to have someone who takes the dominant role. That role is something that stems from heterosexuality. These couples are not heterosexual. They automatically break out of traditional roles. It's true that some, unfortunately, see heterosexual couples and believe that they must mold their own relationship on the idea that one must go out and make money while the other stays home. Most, however, break out of those boundaries and seek true equality.

Thank God no one from the past took the advice you're trying to give me, because I'd be out working the plantation fields right now if they did.

As for "creative" outlets: I've worked with filmmaking, I sell paintings, I'm a teacher's assistant so that I can positively influence student's lives everyday, and I'm working to get published. What's with people on the Internet assuming that they know every little thing about me?

Didn't Dr. Martin Luther King try to make his world what he wanted it to be? He did something constructive. True he lost his life, but he didn't label everyone as being racist. As for you bringing up working in the fields, that is a very racist thing to try to put on someone, me, who never suggested anything near to that idea. You are the one with the problem. Everyone is against poor Mercedesjin, Whah! Aren't you assuming you know every little thing about me by accusing me of being a sexist racist?
Stay in your own little world and I'll be happy in mine.
PS, I'm glad your not teaching my kids your hate.

[mercedesjin]

最初の投稿者：bELyVIS

Didn't Dr. Martin Luther King try to make his world what he wanted it to be? He did something constructive. True he lost his life, but he didn't label everyone as being racist. As for you bringing up working in the fields, that is a very racist thing to try to put on someone, me, who never suggested anything near to that idea. You are the one with the problem. Everyone is against poor Mercedesjin, Whah! Aren't you assuming you know every little thing about me by accusing me of being a sexist racist?
Stay in your own little world and I'll be happy in mine.
PS, I'm glad your not teaching my kids your hate.

First: I never said you suggested the idea of me working in the fields. Go back and read what I said a little more carefully.

Let's get one thing straight: I'm not labeling everyone as racist. I call out ignorance when I see it. I've seen it with you. Obviously, that makes you upset - but instead of becoming so defensive, why don't you take what I've said into consideration? Why don't you start to think about the fact that there is no one ideal "American" culture? Why don't you start to think about the fact that relationships can thrive without someone taking dominance?

I accused you of sexism and racism because of what you've said to me on this thread. Things that you still haven't responded to. Things that you still haven't apologized for. With the childish attitude you've been giving me, though, I guess I won't expect that anytime soon.

Oh, and by the way: a racist person spewing the preachings of Dr. King Jr. doesn't make him any less racist. It just makes him seem a little bit like a coward unwilling to challenge himself and analyze himself.

PEACE OUT.

[MMM]

If people are going to go so far as to call people racists and sexists they better damn well be able to back it up. Those are not terms people should throw around lightly and without any evidence that is worse than using profanity to insult someone.

I can see nothing in bELyVIS' post that claims anyone's "heritage amounts to nothing".

bELyVIS explained more than once about his relationship with his partner. Not once did her push her down, but rather it sounds like he was trying to pull her up. But that makes him sexist.

I don't see it, but I was called a racist, too, so I probably wouldn't be able to see it. Though quotes from the posts showing the racism and sexism would be nice. ("Implied" doesn't work for me in the same way "tone" doesn't work for me. It is a written forum.)

[bELyVIS]

最初の投稿者：mercedesjin

First: I never said you suggested the idea of me working in the fields. Go back and read what I said a little more carefully.

Let's get one thing straight: I'm not labeling everyone as racist. I call out ignorance when I see it. I've seen it with you. Obviously, that makes you upset - but instead of becoming so defensive, why don't you take what I've said into consideration? Why don't you start to think about the fact that there is no one ideal "American" culture? Why don't you start to think about the fact that relationships can thrive without someone taking dominance?

I accused you of sexism and racism because of what you've said to me on this thread. Things that you still haven't responded to. Things that you still haven't apologized for. With the childish attitude you've been giving me, though, I guess I won't expect that anytime soon.

Oh, and by the way: a racist person spewing the preachings of Dr. King Jr. doesn't make him any less racist. It just makes him seem a little bit like a coward unwilling to challenge himself and analyze himself.

PEACE OUT.

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[bELyVIS]

最初の投稿者：MMM

If people are going to go so far as to call people racists and sexists they better damn well be able to back it up. Those are not terms people should throw around lightly and without any evidence that is worse than using profanity to insult someone.

I can see nothing in bELyVIS' post that claims anyone's "heritage amounts to nothing".

bELyVIS explained more than once about his relationship with his partner. Not once did her push her down, but rather it sounds like he was trying to pull her up. But that makes him sexist.

I don't see it, but I was called a racist, too, so I probably wouldn't be able to see it. Though quotes from the posts showing the racism and sexism would be nice. ("Implied" doesn't work for me in the same way "tone" doesn't work for me. It is a written forum.)

Thank you fellow racist.

[ozkai]

最初の投稿者：Koir

What's with you turning every little thing into a race debate with you in the right and everyone else (having a different opinion) in the wrong?

The thread is more about race, but being racist is different altogether!

[Ronin4hire]

最初の投稿者：MMM

bELyVIS explained more than once about his relationship with his partner. Not once did her push her down, but rather it sounds like he was trying to pull her up. But that makes him sexist.

BelyVIS' commentary on Western marriage and his perception of Eastern gender roles makes him an orientalist which is racist in the broader sense.

Furthermore his claim that the degradation of marriage in Western society is due to women rebelling against tradition makes him sexist as it puts the blame of said degradation at their feet. (For the record. I don't believe marriage in the West is degrading. Times are changing sure but I wouldn't say it's degrading)