Originally Posted by Pyro (Post 603775)

I'll second that, I believe the samething. Person have the right to do what they want with their life's, as long as they don't take others with them.

Originally Posted by CarleyGee (Post 603777)

I'll be a third.
Though I would wish they wouldn't.
But take others with you, and that just doubles the wrong.

Originally Posted by Pyro (Post 603790)

Their are ways to help those with great depression, people that normally commit suidide are people who never seek help or never have anyone willing to help. I wish they didn't too, but it's their choice, let them do it if they please.

Originally Posted by CarleyGee (Post 603797)

Though people who commit suicide can sometimes be really confused and deep down they don't want to, it's a spur of the moment act.

I think it calls for being aware of those around you, and if you see a problem, you
could offer your help, though I would be prepared to be turned down.
People don't like admitting they have a problem.

Originally Posted by Pyro (Post 603806)

I know what's up with that? I have friend whose mother is a heavy drinker and a smoker (seriously I haven't seen her once without a beer in her hand.) Feel bad for her but everytime I try talking to her, she denies her problems. Plus everytime I see her she always says something negative about me -.-' lol

Originally Posted by Pyro (Post 603790)

Their are ways to help those with great depression, people that normally commit suidide are people who never seek help or never have anyone willing to help. I wish they didn't too, but it's their choice, let them do it if they please.

Originally Posted by Uriko (Post 603811)

you have to keep in mind though that, sometimes, it's not their choice either.

like i said in a previous post, depression can be genetic & stuff.

sometimes, they don't even know their depressed.

it's entirely situational.

people who are depressed 'cause they think it's "cool" or because they're "brats" & they take for granted what they have? ugh. :mad:

irregardless of how or why though, i do think that people should try, at least once, to help those who are depressed. it's up to them (those who are depressive) to choose whether they want to accept or reject your offer.

Originally Posted by Uriko (Post 603811)

you have to keep in mind though that, sometimes, it's not their choice either.

like i said in a previous post, depression can be genetic & stuff.

sometimes, they don't even know their depressed.

it's entirely situational.

people who are depressed 'cause they think it's "cool" or because they're "brats" & they take for granted what they have? ugh. :mad:

irregardless of how or why though, i do think that people should try, at least once, to help those who are depressed. it's up to them (those who are depressive) to choose whether they want to accept or reject your offer.

Originally Posted by CarleyGee (Post 603821)

I agree, I can't remember exactly, but I've read up on it.
Something to do with the chemicals not being sent to a certain part of your
brain, or there are too many chemicals being sent.
I'm not sure anymore :/

Brats, ugh, seriously.....

Originally Posted by Pyro (Post 603828)

Your right, forgot about that. I'm thinking of going into psychology (though it's a pretty hard major '<<) just because it's interesting to see how the mind works. I've seen people who act emo, because they think it's in style (saw that a lot in high school -.-') and I want to hit them upside their head. It's so stupid.

Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 603842)

I`m far far too late to this discussion... But I`ll drop my opinion on certain things, as I haven`t spotted them covered in a quick skim through the countless posts in here.

In my mind, angst is more an issue than straight out suicide. It seems, in my experience, that angst is not only accepted - but almost encouraged - in the US. On the other hand, angst is hardly an issue in Japan.
In the US, teenagers are far more likely to whine and talk about being depressed wanting to commit suicide, etc... Even if they really aren`t going to. But in Japan, if someone is going to do it they do it quietly without fanfare. You don`t see kids running around moping and whining at anywhere near the level in the US. Someone who is would be considered "dark" and odd and would make people uncomfortable. This is a stark contrast to the social groups which seem to make "dark" and moping a central point in the US.

Originally Posted by Uriko (Post 603839)

increased levels of serotonin & decreased levels of norepinephrine.
or a dysfuntion in its reuptake.

brats are twice as worse when they complain about how no one cares about them & then when you try to help them out they'll go "you don't know what it's like to be me! you'll never understand! leave me alone..!" :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Uriko (Post 603840)

yeah. people who are emo over shallow things. *slap slap*

their species somehow still manage to survive in the college environment. just a heads up.

Originally Posted by ivi0nk3y (Post 603846)

Alright so what about how teens are portrayed in some Japanese media. Are rebel teens popular or few and far between? Or are most of them the type to go to school, come home, do pilates etc.

Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 603842)

I`m far far too late to this discussion... But I`ll drop my opinion on certain things, as I haven`t spotted them covered in a quick skim through the countless posts in here.

In my mind, angst is more an issue than straight out suicide. It seems, in my experience, that angst is not only accepted - but almost encouraged - in the US. On the other hand, angst is hardly an issue in Japan.
In the US, teenagers are far more likely to whine and talk about being depressed wanting to commit suicide, etc... Even if they really aren`t going to. But in Japan, if someone is going to do it they do it quietly without fanfare. You don`t see kids running around moping and whining at anywhere near the level in the US. Someone who is would be considered "dark" and odd and would make people uncomfortable. This is a stark contrast to the social groups which seem to make "dark" and moping a central point in the US.

Originally Posted by Uriko (Post 603863)

what if the occurence of angst in Japan & the US are the same, just expressed differently?

Originally Posted by Nyororin (Post 603871)

The occurrence isn`t the issue. It`s the glamorization of it, to an extent. In Japan, it`s considered normal for parents and kids to not always agree... But in the US, it seems like it`s considered normal for teenagers to be downright crazy and to be beyond any sort of comprehension by adults. Japan doesn`t share that view.