Fukushima - Don’t eat fish! You risk cancer
 

Sadly the catastrophe in Fukushima is comparable with Chernobyl. It is not the explosion with is dangerous it is the radioactive fallout. Fortunately the wind is blowing in the direction of the ocean. But you should not eat fish, mussels an other animals or plants of the ocean anymore, otherwise the dangerous radioactivity will become part of the food chain, and thousands of people will die by cancer. In consequence of Chernobyl sadly 30.000 to 60.000 people died because of the fallout (The Other Report on Chernobyl).

I once read an article in a British newspaper about radiation levels in the Irish sea, the source being nuclear a nuclear reactor in Britain. Irish fishermen who ate their own catch were thought to have been exposed to three times the dosage thought prudent.:confused:

rubbish
 

Stop posting bullshit. There weren't cities or towns nearby Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant with a population of 30 000 or 60 000. Plain and simple.

If a trapped fish, animals or plants sucsessfully passed the simplest radiologic evaluation - they are absolutely safe for use.

fish
 

Yes, but he speaks of possibly contaiminated by nuclear fallout fish.

There's not much danger of me catching it then. I'm a vegetarian and a proper one.

Radiation itself moves poorly through water -this is why the spent fuel rods were submerged in water. So many meters of it virtually removes the risk.

There will doubtlessly be some fish that are contaminated... But I really don`t think that there needs to be much worry.

Why?
Because the fish from that direct area aren`t going to be safe to eat ANYWAY because of all the stuff that was washed into the sea by the tsunami. I`d be much much more concerned about almost definite chemical contamination than trace radiation. Both would effect the exact same area, but the radiation is an "if" - the chemicals are a definite.

danger
 

Yes, but you live in the UK while possibly contaiminated fish could be caught and eaten in Japan.

water
 

No, spent fuel rods were submerged in water just because water serves as coolant and prevents them to overheat. Overheated spent fuel rods may get ablaze. Sea water can absorbs products of radioactive fallout i.e. strontium-90 or cobalt-60.

It both acts as a coolant and as a way to contain the radiation.
You can look down through 40m of water at them and not get a significant dose of radiation. 40m of air would not provide the same protection.

*Absorption* and *travel* are different things. Being absorbed into the water reduces the amount that would be absorbed into living things. Something that has been exposed to radiation doesn`t always end up contaminated with radiation. If the water is absorbing the contamination, while fish may be exposed they won`t necessarily be contaminated. There is a difference that people should be aware of. This is why food can be irradiated without passing any of the radiation on to those eating the food. Exposure vs. contamination.

Radioactive particles can get into the food chain, but it is just as likely in as out of the water.

But either way, it is a moot point because right now there are larger dangers to eating any fish caught in that immediate area. I highly doubt there is going to be much commercial fishing going on in the area for some time as the ports have been washed away, the boats crushed, and the seabed torn up and covered with debris. Not to mention that there is huge difficulty in getting any supplies up there, let alone shipping out fish.

Right now,- the most actualy for japanese is to buy a counter (a detector) of radioactivity (as a Geiger counter, etc.). And to check by this device every goods you want to buy, and an environment you stay. This is the vitally important for you just now, dear friends!
To do the same as japanese did during many-many years after nuclear attack on Hiroshima and Nagasaki...
Excuse me' but it is not so important, to my mind...
If any goods (including dress, fish, gyuuniku , nivatory, all other animals or plants) sucsessfully passed the detector that checks-up to radionuclides- they are commonly valid for use.

This is silly. There are no "goods" coming out of the potentially contaminated area, and there won't be for quite a while.

Please allow me to remind you, my friends, that japanese already pased through THE SAME (and possibly- much worse!!!) situation with radioactive disaster after nuclear bombing!
Than you overcame it' : and survived!
Why just now- the such panic!?

It is not so difficult to disactivate cars, dress, bildings, etc.
And there are many-many areas, in the World ocean (and by the way,- in South Japan too!), that are for common use and still not contaminated by Fukushima's explosions.

Chernobyl
Observed maximum number value
20000 roentgen/hour= about 200000mSievert/hour = 200sV/h

Fukushima
Observed maximum number value
400mSv/h

Your brain is a radioactive contamination.

I lol'd. Great comeback!

the ocean currents flow clockwise on the eastern seaboard, and there is little fishing north of there.

and like nyororin said, the other shit that flowed into the ocean around there is far more dangerous and also renders fishing impossible

this all changes in the case of a full scale meltdown, in that case I won't be eating local fish :)

Here's an idea. How about people who live 1000's of miles away from Japan and who have little to no idea of what is actually occurring here and who have no idea what they are talking about stop starting ridiculous threads advising the Japanese people what they should or should not be doing. Believe it or not the Japanese people are more than capable of making their own decisions that are best for their safety and those around them!

Such an odd thing to suggest :O

Yes sorry I was feeling just a little too sensible this morning.

Truly though as someone who lives here I am really starting to get sick and tired of all these people from around the world who actually believe they know something that the obviously poor, deluded and misled Japanese do not. It truly is a wonder that Japan has been able to become the great nation it is today without all these peoples advice previously!!

I ate 40pieces of sushi for lunch. I'm so full..........*gasp*

More over blown hype, where do these people come from? Most the deaths in Russia were right around the plant, they totaled 50. Several hundred from the local area did develope thyroid cancer. But there wasn't 10's of thousands of deaths. Russia had an exposed core because they never built a containment unit for it. This one has a containment unit, not sure if it's cracked or not.

Radioactive fish?...whatever. :rolleyes:

:vsign:
You have my support to post that in boldface, enlarged font before every thread on this forum about the subject!

I am fed up with the tear-filled whining and fear-mongering BS that is getting lapped up and reposted continuously. Having been through serious disasters, I expected this for the first 34-48 hours, but this is going on too long.

So i am not supposed to eat this fish?

Is this gonna be like swine flu? ;)

I think we can't compare these values, where was it taken ? near the reactor ? 200 m from the reactor ? 1 km from the reactor ? we don't know.

Both readings were near the reactors, as in meters. This isn't Chernobil, stop comparing it to that disaster.

OK near the reactors, but in the air ? on the ground ? i don't say it's Chernobyl, i say we can't compare these readings.

Observation data in the vicinity of nuclear reactor.
A municipality and an individual measurement are displayed in the net by the real time.

I present URL for you.
Google

I didn't know what this URL was, thanks a lot, i will use this google now. The things you are saying are true, sorry i'm confused. :o

Nyororin and Termogard; there is substance in what both of you are saying about radiation;

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Time consuming to read and I can't say I understand a lot of information associated with the point being discussed.

A good many were and maybe still are suffering the after effects for years.

radioation
 

So what? It was deadly dangerous to be nearby Chernobyl reactor. According to japanese sources, it is deadly dangerous now to be near damaged Fukushima reactors.

People were evacuated from a region of location of Chernobyl Nuclear Power Station and now people are evacuated from a region of Fukushima Nuclear Plant.

Chernobyl reactor had a leak of radiation into atmosphere and nearby environment and Fukushima Daiichi reactors have a leak of radiation into atmosphere.

It is an observation data today
http://ag.riken.jp/u/mon/2011-03-18.gif
Timezone : GMT+9:00
Unit : μSv/h 1000μSv/h=1mSv/h
Station : Tokai, Ibaraki
fukushima-100km-tokai(leeward)-115km-tokyo(leeward)

Tokyo to New York by airplane One way 0.19mSv
Hot spring(onsen) of radium 0.3-15μSv/h
X-ray computed tomography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Guarapari - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia beach 5-15μSv/h

Chernobyl
Contamination by nuclear fission.

Fukushima
Nuclear fission is a suspension settlement.
Contamination by evaporating coolant water.

When it is not possible to understand
Google

If it is an accident similar to Chernobyl, the cooling work cannot be done.
Even if it puts on protective clothing, it is contaminated.

contamination
 

Yes, atmospheric contamination and contamination of nearby environment in both cases.

The person doesn't live naturally in the region where the value of the radioactivity is high............

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possible mutants
 

Large example of wels catfish in a technical pond nearby Chernobyl NPP.

Catfish from Chernobyl

Wels catfish in a lake in Spain weigh 300+ pounds. Those fish can get huge.

The radiation is comeing from a pond that housed spent fule rods. The primary reactor is full of sea water, it's the spent fuel rod pond they are worried about...Depleted uranium. Sure it's going to leak radiation but not in the massive quantities people are all worrying about. You would prolly take more rads from 10 mins in a sun tan bed than what you will recieve in Tokyo, let alone farther away.

You really seemed determined to try and make out what has happened here is worse than it is. The events in Fukushima are nothing like what occurred at Chernobyl. Not even close. Siokan makes some excellent points which you just completely ignore on your little crusade.
Firstly the Chernobyl reactor blew when it was running near full power. It had not shut down and had control rods inserted into the core to greatly reduce the nuclear reactions. The core was completely and utterly exposed and radioactive material was blasted many km's up into the atmosphere which meant this material was spread a long way from the reactor. None of these things have occurred at the Fukushima reactors. The amounts of radiactivity that's been released is many orders of magnitude less than Chernobyl. There has been no massive explosion totally breaching the core vessels. Radioactive materials have barely gone up 500m into the atmosphere meaning the dispersal of radioactive material is minimal and poses no real threat beyond the immediate area around the reactors. Certainly absolutely impossible to pose any threat to any other country. Is it at all possible you can keep a little perspective on what has actually occurred?