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Hyakushi 03-19-2008 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkDuff (Post 430991)
some people may feel the same as I do and some may disagree.......but from my stand point in the U.S. Government is that they will try their hardest to throw away ourmoney for some odd reason........I am an American citizen and will stand behnd the government even though they are the ones that will cause the next stock market crash........And sence I come from a family that runs their own business all the government wants is to screw the people out of their money.........but this is from my stand point....

Thats true did you know after joining the military you have to pay for the time you served! what bullshit right.

MarkDuff 03-19-2008 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Hyakushi (Post 430992)
Thats true did you know after joining the military you have to pay for the time you served! what bullshit right.

nope sure didn't......I wouldn't mind joining the military but it would probable be a wait of time for me

Hyakushi 03-19-2008 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkDuff (Post 430994)
nope sure didn't......I wouldn't mind joining the military but it would probable be a wait of time for me

Yea and you can't even get the benifits right away, yet all these kids who have kids get wellfare over thousands of dollars cause they couldn't keep there legs closed and a F'n military person can't even get 200 dollars worth in wellfare. Its all bullshit I wouldn't join the military if i had a chance not to I wouldn't have.

MarkDuff 03-19-2008 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Hyakushi (Post 430998)
Yea and you can't even get the benifits right away, yet all these kids who have kids get wellfare over thousands of dollars cause they couldn't keep there legs closed and a F'n military person can't even get 200 dollars worth in wellfare. Its all bullshit I wouldn't join the military if i had a chance not to I wouldn't have.

Dude welfare has and always will be just a bunch of bullshit.........people get welfare that are perfectly fine and can work but they are to lazy to get inthe morning and go to work and make their living....

MarkDuff 03-19-2008 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by chachava (Post 430968)
where exactly are you getting these 'facts' from? The Russians have never had more advanced weapons than the Americans... maybe on par in many cases, but certainly not ahead

have you forgotten that the Russians had nuclear weaponry befor the Americans did? If they wouldn't of waited we all probably wouldn't be here.........

Hyakushi 03-19-2008 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkDuff (Post 431004)
Dude welfare has and always will be just a bunch of bullshit.........people get welfare that are perfectly fine and can work but they are to lazy to get inthe morning and go to work and make their living....

I KNOW!!! it sucks, I knew it was BS but I didn't have to go through it before untill now so I'm pissed bout it >.< :punchbear:.

MarkDuff 03-19-2008 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Hyakushi (Post 431008)
I KNOW!!! it sucks, I knew it was BS but I didn't have to go through it before untill now so I'm pissed bout it >.< :punchbear:.

The only problemis that gettingpissed off about it won't solv the problem.....really nothing will unless they take welfare away from every one

Excessum 03-19-2008 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Joedirt (Post 430299)
Should the U.S. withdraw its troops and leave Japan?

As much as i dislike US foreign policy, i think they should keep their forces in Japan due to their strategic value in the southern Asia region.

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Originally Posted by EveV (Post 430386)
I'm not sure really.
Japanese need them for protection.

Protection from what? They are not there for protection, they only act as a shoulder to daunt N.Korea (and in some ways also China). :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by EveV (Post 430635)
Most wars are influenced,stopped or course changed because of geography.

While all of them are started because of monnneh!

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Originally Posted by Ronin4hire (Post 430800)
US forces are there to stifle the Chinese and Russian military influence in the region and to help contain North Korea along with their bases in South Korea.

Russian military influence? In Japan? It's not the19th century anymore. The only local military interest they seem to have right now is in the SW part of Asia.

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Originally Posted by Amnell (Post 430860)
And then Pearl Harbour happened, and we all went, "OKAY! FINE! If you all are just gonna poke and jab us, then we'll be more sociable, JEEZ!"

I strongly suggest you look for Robert Stinnett's Day of Deceit, if you haven't read it yet.

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Originally Posted by Hyakushi (Post 430939)
The japanese and U.S. military isn't a strong force, the best and most dangerous is the russian military. They have more advanced weapons than the U.S. which is why we try to avoid any conflict with them.

More advanced? In some areas yes, but they are bot as flexible as the US armament, mostly practicing "head on" philosophy with little regards to stealth or tactics (this seems to be strong rooted in their military machine since the WWII lol), not to mention heavy shortage in quantity of this equipment and the overall poor qualification and low morals of their troops. Nevertheless they are still a force to reckon with.

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Originally Posted by Ramones1976 (Post 430952)
I guess Russia still has all those nukes and radar guided explosives from that whole arm race during the cold war?

Nope, they have modernized the armament of their strategic forces. A lot of the nuclear warheads that survived the collapse of Soviet union have now been re-utilized and put in-to new carrier missiles. Others have been dismounted and/or sold to other countries (rumors, o/c).

Ramones1976 03-19-2008 04:40 AM

[quote=Amnell;430984]Ramones1976: First of all, "faux" does indeed mean "false". However, it is pronounced like "foe", so when you say it out loud, you sound like a complete moron. That aside, personally I like that Fox News is right-wing biased. I think there should be more right-wing biased news networks on the air, in fact. Poor Fox News is up there waving the Conservative banner all alone, standing defiantly against the sea of super-liberal news networks that have owned the airways for the last half-century.

Who the fuck are you calling moron, ************ (angrily swears)
Second, politically I'm very liberal, so Fox new is bloody bollocks

If you want fair and balanced, you have to watch CNN for an hour, then watch Fox News for an hour. That way you get super-liberal and "super"-conservative viewpoints on the same bullshit. Better yet, don't even watch the news. It's all controlled by people who don't give a shit about giving you-the-viewer an accurate report of events, whose sole interest is making money, whose favourite form of self-amusement is sensationalizing something that makes no difference to anyone on the face of the planet and starting a nationwide panic-over-nothing (like global warming, for instance--it's true, but it's way played up).

I watched a few minutes of Fox and I swear I wanted to bitch slap the news reporters, I couldn't stand listening to them, the things they said pissed me off :mad:
Personally I like BBC news


Actually, I believe Afghanistan was sanctioned by the UN; it was Iraq that the UN was opposed to.

No I don't think so

We were neutral for a good long time, actually. Between 1812 and WW1, I don't believe that U.S. was involved in one conflict between European countries. That's more than a century.

Bollocks, the US was far from neutral during the 19 century...
The war of 1812, the war in Algeria, the war with Mexico...
They oppressed, horribly treated, and stole land from the natives, stole Hawaii, and south west states from Mexico, bought Alaska, and during the war with Spain got a hold of the Philippines, Cuba, Puerto Rico, and Nicaragua.

The sunday comment was just a joke XP .

So funny I forgot to laugh

So, from my reading, Vietnam was not an officially UN-sanctioned war. However, as the motivation of the war was to halt communism, pretty much everyone in Western Europe was (initally, at least) on our side, even if they couldn't say so. You could argue that the attitude was one of pride, but it was more the restoration of reputation than it was about "we can kick your ass, just you watch".

Yes it was american arrogance...
Well look how well the us did of 'kicking ass"...
More like they got their asses kicked...by peasants with without as much technology

Look I said I don't want to bicker and argue, so just drop it please

Ramones1976 03-19-2008 04:42 AM

Nope, they have modernized the armament of their strategic forces. A lot of the nuclear warheads that survived the collapse of Soviet union have now been re-utilized and put in-to new carrier missiles. Others have been dismounted and/or sold to other countries (rumors, o/c). [/quote]

Oh okay...


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