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MMM 07-30-2008 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by tommasi (Post 551073)
I wasn't talking about just onsen but in tattoos in general.
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Yes, I know tommasi, and my comment wasn't necessarily directed to you. I know you know what you are talking about.

Paul11 07-30-2008 04:54 AM

Hey, get tattoos and go to Japan if you want. But as I told you earlier, people (not all, but enough) will be intimidated and scared. It will not be healthy for socializing unless you only care about the opinion of 20 year old wanna-be's.

Yuna7780 07-30-2008 05:44 AM

Wow! Reading this thread is sort of scary-ish to travel to Japan with innocent-meaning tatooes.

Before, I knew that tatooes were interelated with yakuza, but I didn't know it was this taboo!!

tommasi 07-30-2008 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 551083)
Yes, I know tommasi, and my comment wasn't necessarily directed to you. I know you know what you are talking about.

Thanks. I just wanted to make sure.

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Originally Posted by Paul11 (Post 551102)
Hey, get tattoos and go to Japan if you want. But as I told you earlier, people (not all, but enough) will be intimidated and scared. It will not be healthy for socializing unless you only care about the opinion of 20 year old wanna-be's.

Yea, why would someone take advices from hipsters and use it as a credible source of information.

If I interview random people on the street regarding tattoos, I'm almost certain that 99% of them would give me negative feedback and non of them would pay for their grandchildren's tattoos.

My dad is very liberal and I thought he didn't care about tattoos.

He even said it would be OK for my girlfriend to get one if she wants to.

But when she got herself a fake tattoo painted on her lower back, he got so angry at her saying she damaged her healthy skin.

My girlfriend was so surprised and didn't realize until then how serious problem it is to get a tattoo in Japan.

People need to know that some cultural things do not cross-over very well.

Henbaka 07-30-2008 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sangetsu (Post 551044)
If your tattoos are very visible, such as on your neck, hands, or face, you may very well be denied entry.

Not many people have tattoos all over their face. And it's not very hard to have a hoodie/gloves for that matter either. It's not that common to have to strip down naked at the customs...

Henbaka 07-30-2008 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by tommasi (Post 551142)
Thanks. I just wanted to make sure.



Yea, why would someone take advices from hipsters and use it as a credible source of information.

If I interview random people on the street regarding tattoos, I'm almost certain that 99% of them would give me negative feedback and non of them would pay for their grandchildren's tattoos.

My dad is very liberal and I thought he didn't care about tattoos.

He even said it would be OK for my girlfriend to get one if she wants to.

But when she got herself a fake tattoo painted on her lower back, he got so angry at her saying she damaged her healthy skin.

My girlfriend was so surprised and didn't realize until then how serious problem it is to get a tattoo in Japan.

People need to know that some cultural things do not cross-over very well.

Um, He said it was OK to for her to get a tattoo, but then freaked out when she got a ...fake one? Gotta be confusing.

MMM 07-30-2008 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Henbaka (Post 551152)
Not many people have tattoos all over their face. And it's not very hard to have a hoodie/gloves for that matter either. It's not that common to have to strip down naked at the customs...

Try wearing a hoodie and gloves through customs and tell me you won't get delayed

(remember, they take everyone's fingerprint now)

sillygodxdisco 07-30-2008 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by tommasi (Post 550967)
How many average Japanese people have tattoos?

I would say almost none.

Also, you guys are missing one fact.

In Japan, hurting your healthy body that was given by your parents is considered disrespectful to your parents.

That's why yakuzas get one to show that they have no connections to their family members anymore by hurting themselves.

Personally, I don't have problems with tattoos but many people do.

So you can continue to take advices from those hipsters but just be aware that those people do not represent entire Japan and once you get to Japan, you would realize how conservative Japanese society is.


yes i am aware that "purposely hurting your body" is disrespectful, as my dad reminds me all the time.
so therefore i don't understand why it is acceptable to get piercings [and i know there are japanese people who get plastic surgery but idk how many so i won't use that as an example here] but not tattoos. they're both "hurting your body". braces are, too, but again i'm not sure how many japanese people get those. well braces isn't "hurting your body" but basically anything to do with permanently altering appearance is supposed to be bad ..
and the cutting off family ties thing .. i never knew that .. but again, if so, shouldn't piercings be regarded as "taboo" as well?

also i'm not "taking advice" from "hipsters" .. i mean yes famous people get away with a lot but i didn't think getting away with such a serious issue is that easy .. for example if a famous person stole something they wouldn't be able to get away with it, they'd be regarded as a criminal.

and i'm sorry if i seem to be but i'm not trying to sound rude or anything .. i'm just trying to gain a better understanding here

MMM 07-30-2008 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by sillygodxdisco (Post 551158)
yes i am aware that "purposely hurting your body" is disrespectful, as my dad reminds me all the time.
so therefore i don't understand why it is acceptable to get piercings [and i know there are japanese people who get plastic surgery but idk how many so i won't use that as an example here] but not tattoos. they're both "hurting your body". braces are, too, but again i'm not sure how many japanese people get those. well braces isn't "hurting your body" but basically anything to do with permanently altering appearance is supposed to be bad ..
and the cutting off family ties thing .. i never knew that .. but again, if so, shouldn't piercings be regarded as "taboo" as well?

also i'm not "taking advice" from "hipsters" .. i mean yes famous people get away with a lot but i didn't think getting away with such a serious issue is that easy .. for example if a famous person stole something they wouldn't be able to get away with it, they'd be regarded as a criminal.

and i'm sorry if i seem to be but i'm not trying to sound rude or anything .. i'm just trying to gain a better understanding here

Pierced ears is a relatively new concept in female fashion. I would bet if you looked at the ears of most women over 30 in Japan, they wouldn't be pierced. Still, the number of women that do it is in the minority (I believe). Many people see piercings as a bad as tattoos. When was a teacher there I was not allowed to wear an earring in my ear.

Plastic surgery happens, but not at nearly the rate it does in some other parts of the world. It's never obvious, unless you are Utada Hikaru. It seems like there is hardly a Korean starlet that HASN'T had something done, but I don't hear about Japanese talent getting work done as much as even American stars. Almost never. Porn stars are getting boob jobs more, I hear.

Very few people get braces, but it is becoming more common. Put it this way, braces were unheard of 20 years ago in Japan. I have seen a few people with braces in recent years, but even I am surprised when I see it.

And you don't think famous people can get away with more than regular folks?

Henbaka 07-30-2008 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 551156)
Try wearing a hoodie and gloves through customs and tell me you won't get delayed

(remember, they take everyone's fingerprint now)

Dude you don't have to look like the unabomber because you have a hoodie. You can wear the hood down and still cover your neck. Anyways that was just an example, there are other clothing choices to cover up those parts. When they ask you to remove your gloves, and thus your little hand-tattoo is revealed, do you _really_ think they would just go "no I'm sorry sir. You have a tattoo on your hand. We just can't let you in". You could also have cloves with not fingers, but that's not as classy :)

I'm sure you didn't think I meant to get covered up like you were gonna rob a frickin bank...


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