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JoshAussie 07-30-2008 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Henbaka (Post 551354)
Ok then. Do you seriously think a regular hoodie looks menacing in a way that would get you suspected in customs? This is really a pointless argument to have but I just got to get this straight.

Hey! This guy looks like a real menace to society! We _must_ detain him and search his stuff! At once! You probably can't even see the horrifying tattoos on his neck!

Regarding your question; I went through customs in Japan twice in 2005. I hear there are more strict regulations now, correct? Anyways, at those times it was just a walk-through for me.

that guy is stylish.

sillygodxdisco 07-31-2008 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MMM (Post 551164)
Pierced ears is a relatively new concept in female fashion. I would bet if you looked at the ears of most women over 30 in Japan, they wouldn't be pierced. Still, the number of women that do it is in the minority (I believe). Many people see piercings as a bad as tattoos. When was a teacher there I was not allowed to wear an earring in my ear.

Plastic surgery happens, but not at nearly the rate it does in some other parts of the world. It's never obvious, unless you are Utada Hikaru. It seems like there is hardly a Korean starlet that HASN'T had something done, but I don't hear about Japanese talent getting work done as much as even American stars. Almost never. Porn stars are getting boob jobs more, I hear.

Very few people get braces, but it is becoming more common. Put it this way, braces were unheard of 20 years ago in Japan. I have seen a few people with braces in recent years, but even I am surprised when I see it.

And you don't think famous people can get away with more than regular folks?

really? i didn't know that. because when i was in tokyo i saw a lot of females [well mostly teens & young adults] with piercings and they weren't given special attention or anything like that.
utada hikaru has plastic surgery? .. & anyway don't a lot of japanese get their eyelids done? because most of the middle aged & old people in japan have single lids whereas a lot of young people have doubles. but anyway like i said i don't know the numbers so i'm not going to say i'm positive about these things.
well yes i know about the braces .. because for example all the american magazines' models usually have straight teeth, whereas in japanese magazines i've seen girls with like vampire teeth. >< but i didn't mean to use that as a notable example
no i know famous people can get away with more .. i know this is going to sound stupid [i can't think of another example] but there was a picture of a jrocker with his finger up his nose and a lot of people commented with "LOL HE'S SO CUTE" whereas a normal person doing that would get negative feedback. but i don't think famous people get away with serious issues more than regular people. not much anyway.


and about the hoodie issue .. if it's easier to get through customs with a suit why not just wear that? you can hide a tattoo in a suit as well as you can hide one in a hoodie ..

rina26 07-31-2008 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sillygodxdisco (Post 551805)
and about the hoodie issue .. if it's easier to get through customs with a suit why not just wear that? you can hide a tattoo in a suit as well as you can hide one in a hoodie ..

Why do you feel the need to hide a tattoo at customs to begin with? They're not going to turn you away.

sillygodxdisco 07-31-2008 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by rina26 (Post 551808)
Why do you feel the need to hide a tattoo at customs to begin with? They're not going to turn you away.



well i don't have a stand on whether or not it's needed .. but there's debating going on up there so i was making a suggestion.

Henbaka 07-31-2008 06:57 AM

That's kind of my point. I have said the hoodie thing was just an example of how you could cover up your neck, IF you were worried about a tattoo. I don't think you'd get turned away at customs for having a tattoo either, but that was the opinion of some people here, hence my comments.

MMM 07-31-2008 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by sillygodxdisco (Post 551805)
really? i didn't know that. because when i was in tokyo i saw a lot of females [well mostly teens & young adults] with piercings and they weren't given special attention or anything like that.
utada hikaru has plastic surgery? .. & anyway don't a lot of japanese get their eyelids done? because most of the middle aged & old people in japan have single lids whereas a lot of young people have doubles. but anyway like i said i don't know the numbers so i'm not going to say i'm positive about these things.
well yes i know about the braces .. because for example all the american magazines' models usually have straight teeth, whereas in japanese magazines i've seen girls with like vampire teeth. >< but i didn't mean to use that as a notable example
no i know famous people can get away with more .. i know this is going to sound stupid [i can't think of another example] but there was a picture of a jrocker with his finger up his nose and a lot of people commented with "LOL HE'S SO CUTE" whereas a normal person doing that would get negative feedback. but i don't think famous people get away with serious issues more than regular people. not much anyway.


and about the hoodie issue .. if it's easier to get through customs with a suit why not just wear that? you can hide a tattoo in a suit as well as you can hide one in a hoodie ..

Ths is what i have been saying... I am glad you finally get it.

godwine 07-31-2008 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rina26 (Post 551808)
Why do you feel the need to hide a tattoo at customs to begin with? They're not going to turn you away.

Rina, the issue is not about "hiding it", but the amount of trouble you may have to go through for having a tatoo.... A lot of people have illusions that Japan is a very open and modern country, that is only what was exposed to the world. Internally, Japan is still a very very conservative country, the concept of body art is there, but not widely accepted by the general public, as a matter, the world been demanding the "open and twisted" side of things more, that is why only these material are being exposed to the rest of the world.

Back to the "conservative" topic, people (Custom) will judge and question you if they felt that you are a threat to society, and this threat, is usually judged based on how you present yourself, so while they don't accept body art, presenting yourself with one is potentially "asking for it"

Henbaka 07-31-2008 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by godwine (Post 552027)
A lot of people have illusions that Japan is a very open and modern country

Modern yes, but HOW can _anyone_ describe Japan as "open" ?!

godwine 07-31-2008 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Henbaka (Post 552032)
Modern yes, but HOW can _anyone_ describe Japan as "open" ?!

Well, for people like yourself, MMM, Nagoyankee (and others) and the few of us that knows about Japan, will know that its NOT, but thats how others sees it. Most of the influence comes from the POP/ROCK, Anime/Manga and Adult Entertainment influence.

When I say "Open" I wasn't referring to anything relating to sex or anything like that, but more along the line of open culture that accepts anything that goes around the world

Henbaka 07-31-2008 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by godwine (Post 552036)
Well, for people like yourself, MMM, Nagoyankee (and others) and the few of us that knows about Japan, will know that its NOT, but thats how others sees it. Most of the influence comes from the POP/ROCK, Anime/Manga and Adult Entertainment influence.

When I say "Open" I wasn't referring to anything relating to sex or anything like that, but more along the line of open culture that accepts anything that goes around the world

Yeah, coming from an actually "open" (IMO) country, it wasn't hard to notice that when I was in Japan.


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