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ok - 03-02-2008, 06:21 AM

I give you some examples of it.

眠らずに、朝まで彼を待った。
砂糖(さとう)を入れずに、ケーキを作った。
朝食を食べずに出かけた。
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Thanks, now I know the meaning and function of this form

but I wonder what's the rule for this, I mean how to change other verb into this form?
ず is the continuative form (連用形 ren'yōkei) of ぬ, which is the conjugable auxiliary verb (助動詞 jodōshi) used for negation. Any verb before ず turns into imperfective form (未然形 mizenkei). Modern Japanese has three regular conjugation groups as well as two irregular verbs.
  • 5-row group (五段活用 godan katsuyou): Imperfective form ends with -a.
  • upper 1-row group (上一段活用 kami ichidan katsuyou): Imperfective form ends with -i
  • lower 1-row group (下一段活用 shimo ichidan katsuyou): Imperfective form ends with -e

The irregular verbs are -する and -来る, which changes to -せず and -来(こ)ず.


  • 金色のちひさき鳥のかたちしていてふちるなり夕日の丘 に
  • 清水へ祇園をよぎる桜月夜こよひ逢ふひとみなうつくし き

- 与謝野晶子
  • いちはつの花咲きいでて我目には今年ばかりの春行かん とす
  • くれなゐの二尺伸びたる薔薇の芽の針やはらかに春雨の ふる

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03-02-2008, 07:44 AM

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I give you some examples of it.

眠らずに、朝まで彼を待った。
砂糖(さとう)を入れずに、ケーキを作った。
朝食を食べずに出かけた。
In your examples there are six verbs.

5-row group
眠る -> 眠らず
待つ -> 待たず
作る -> 作らず

lower 1-row group
入れる -> 入れず
出かける -> 出かけず
食べる -> 食べず

見る is an example of upper 1-row verb. It turns into 見ず.

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  • 金色のちひさき鳥のかたちしていてふちるなり夕日の丘 に
  • 清水へ祇園をよぎる桜月夜こよひ逢ふひとみなうつくし き

- 与謝野晶子
  • いちはつの花咲きいでて我目には今年ばかりの春行かん とす
  • くれなゐの二尺伸びたる薔薇の芽の針やはらかに春雨の ふる

- 正岡子規

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Hi, The formaiton is the same as nai-from. For example, いく(iku) → いかない(ika nai)→ remove ない(nai) and add ずに(zu ni) :いかずに(ika zu ni) . However, the ずに (zu ni) form for する (suru) verbs is not しずに(shi zu ni ) but せずに (se zu ni) , as in べんきょうせずに (benkyoo se zu ni) which means ' without studying'

Do you know how to make nai-form?
G1 verbs
e.g. いく → いかない
     iku → ikanai
( 'u' sound change to 'a' sound and add 'nai')
 のむ(nomu) →のまない(nomanai)

G2 verbs
e.g. たべる(taberu) →たべない(tabenai)
( remove ' る(ru)' and add ' ない(nai)' )
みる(miru) → みない(minai)

G3 verbs
する(suru) → しない(shinai)
くる(kuru) → こない(konai)

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Sorry I didn't see the second page when I wrote this.
The formation of ずに has already explained before ....
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