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sailorkittehxoxo 10-29-2008 11:51 PM

what age do you think people should wait to
 
have sex?

im just wondering.

clairebear 10-29-2008 11:52 PM

Whenever they feel ready. Preferrably at or over the legal age..

sailorkittehxoxo 10-29-2008 11:53 PM

ohh, I dont really have an opinion but yeah.

0Kurisu0 10-30-2008 12:12 AM

LOL?
well.. err... xD agree with clairebear, but I think the age it's not important (well, xD you know) the most important is how the person feels himself or herself ready

alchemistchild 10-30-2008 12:35 AM

I think you need to be at least 18 +before you should start thinking about those sorts of things. You can't trust your judgement or your feelings when you're 13 or even 16, that is just way too young.

Yuna7780 10-30-2008 03:01 AM

Marriage.

character limit

Laine 10-30-2008 03:06 AM

Forget age; what matters is the maturity levels of the parties involved, I think. Yes, I'm unnecessarily making this sound legal.

As long as you are aware of the possible consequences and risks involved (both emotional and physical -- e.g. babies and diseases), I say go get it when you want it.

tangerine 10-30-2008 03:15 AM

I think when you AND YOUR PARTNER are ready. A lot of people think because they are ready their partner is as well. Consider anothers feelings with the matter to, not just your own.

Being in high school I hear a lot of stories of teens hooking up at parties and not using any type of protection. Then once I chime in about STD's or something they get this shocked look on their faces. It honestly disgusts me how unaware teens are about this type of stuff but continue being unsafe. I take that back, its not JUST teens. but still..its sad.

VitalStatistic 10-30-2008 03:17 AM

I say if you are over 18. It's disturbing to see the girls at my school that are 14-16 getting pregnant. The older ones aren't though but the younger ones are. Then hearing on The Tyra Banks show about a 12 year old being pregnant! That's insanity.
I'm 15 and don't plan on having it ANY time soon.

NightMikado 10-30-2008 03:19 AM

IMO they kno about the diseases and risk of pregnancy and stuff is there there just to arrogant and say ohhhh it'll never happen to me. If i were you i'd def wait until you are 100% sure you want to and that you will be ready for any circumstances that may arise. If theres any doubt at all dont do it.

Rose 10-30-2008 03:21 AM

I don't think there should be an age, they have to wait for the right person, and not just go around screwing just for the sake of doing it.

DagothUr 10-30-2008 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rose (Post 618187)
I don't think there should be an age, they have to wait for the right person, and not just go around screwing just for the sake of doing it.

Exactly. .

theAlphaDuck 10-30-2008 12:05 PM

i think the opposite...screw around...
for the following reasons
1. It's FUN
2. It's FREE
3. It's Healthy
4. Gets better with practice

also worth remembering....YOUR YOUNG ONCE!....don't rush into relationships... you've got your Whole life to be sensible....and if you get to age 55 and youve had 3 sexual partners....well where do you think prostitutes get thier customers from....?

Live life...like its your last day... you could get hit by a bus tommorow...

I REALLY don't think its a good idea for youngsters to get involved in HEAVY relationships.... your just not emotionally ready...

SEX is SEX...personally i lost mine age 14 (doggy style over the cello rack in a music practice room)....and ive shagged my way well into triple didgets...

drink fully from the cup of life...

IF people judge you...fuck em.... because if you have FUN now...when your young...then when it comes to settling down...its alot better.....but if you dont...

well why do you think most swingers are over 50?

and do you wanna be one of those?

i can sit happily in my relationship without ANY urge to sleep around....thats because i know 2 things
1. ive shagged plenty
2. i can have any woman of my chosing

i am confident in this...so if i see a petit little blonde with perky boobs...well i've been with one of those....and i KNOW i can make her mine if i want to...so i got nothing left to prove

also everyone is different in bed....and its worth experiencing that different dynamic...

SO FREE LOVE...all the way ;)

Salvanas 10-30-2008 12:38 PM

Hmm. "Whenever" is not the best answer here, although my opinion may seem the same.

I think the people should be both over 16, and should both be FULLY aware of the risks. It's not just about "feeling ready" it's about using condoms, understanding what they'll have to do if it goes wrong, and all that.

In all, I agree with Josh and I agree alot with AlphaDuck.

Banzai 10-30-2008 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenchu (Post 618299)
Lets hope you don't practice what you preach, Josh, or you'll be a virgin for another 5 years!

Yeah, I would say no younger than 3.



Well, my last gf was 14. So I say 14.

MissMisa 10-30-2008 12:57 PM

I think that it is entirely dependent on the person. People mature physically and mentally at different ages, and there is no set age a person will be 'ready to have sex.' Personally, I don't believe in putting a generic age tag on it because of the varying degree of human development - some people start puberty at 8 years old, others, as old as 17 or 18. I don't think it's our place to judge when someone is ready mentally and physically to consent to sex. I had sex at a young age because a) I'd been in a relationship with that person for a long time beforehand, and b) I personally believed, and still do believe I was ready and educated enough to make that decision. It's also not about fucking someone at a certain age for the sake of fucking someone, it's about finding the right person first in my opinion.

I don't think responsibility has to come with age. There will be people who will be safe from the first time they have sex, and there will be others who'll just fuck unprotected all the time regardless of age.

theAlphaDuck 10-30-2008 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshAussie (Post 618298)
Anyone saying "Whenever, as long as your both ready" Should be shot.

FIRSTLY:

lets all remember there is NO right answer to this.

so NO one should be shot...least of me...I'm far too good looking...though i suppose a bullet hole scar in the right place could do something to enhance my already adonis looks :p

i dont know about you but didnt we ALL play "Doctors and Nurses" as kids?

i know i did.

SEX is a beautifull thing...

its not dirty....its not wrong....and chances are if your thinking about it...and you want to do it...then your ready for it.

its strange that in the society we all live in...its ok for violence to be on TV....you can broadcast someone butchering someone brutally with a blunt nitting needle and then eating parts of that persons flesh in a blood orgy of violence....

but your not allowed to broadcast an errect penis....

SEX...brings people together.... and providing its consetual there is no reason it shouldnt be a positive experience...no matter what.

i think you need to calm down a bit there josh

theAlphaDuck 10-30-2008 01:44 PM

yea i read it...

it depends...you CANT say NO....

i mean sure...12 is a bit young...BUT...why the fuck not?

lets not forget...a couple of hundered years ago...you would be married at the age of 12 and expected to have your first kid by the time you were 15!

clearly it depends..... also what do you mean by FUCKING?

sticking it in a moving it around...SEX is more than that...hell you can make a girl cum without even touching her pussy if you know what your doing....

would you class that as FUCKING?

or what about mutual masturbation?

if it feels good...and no-one gets hurt...then whats the big deal?

OF course older guy's/girls shouldnt be messing around with younglings...because they have an unfair mental edvantage...but if both are as young as each other....i see nothing wrong with a bit of fooling around

MissMisa 10-30-2008 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshAussie (Post 618312)
Do you really think an 8 year old (Even if said 8 year old has hit puberty) Is ready for a sex??

Im sure many of the 14 year old girls that have sex at parties with some guys theyve just met really do "Think they are ready for sex."

And do you think that "being a relationship" for a "long time" at that age actually changes anything??

Im sure two 12 year olds that have been "going out" since they were 6 are ready to "Fuck."

I wonder how serious a relationship you can have at that age. Unless of course one of the "Partners" is taking advtantage of the other. (Like a large age differance...)

Also, If you think that its allright for 12 year olds to fuck each other, then whats your stance on a 18 year old fucking an 10 year old? (For the sake of the argument lets say the 10 year old hit puberty at the age of 8)

I mean, your trying to justify "Tweenies" and (Omg people below the age of 10 - oh but lets make sure theyve atleast hit puberty and deem themselves "Ready") to engage in (lets not suger coat it) Fucking each other.

8 year olds, no, because at 8 barely anybody is emotionally capable of understanding, even if they have hit puberty then.

14 year old girls who have sex for the first time at a party are obviously not ready for sex, and not mature enough to do so either, despite what they might think of themselves. But there is no stopping them, only educating them how to avoid STDs and pregnancy.

I think being in a solid relationship is a good foundation for a sexual relationship rather than fucking someone you've only known 5 minutes. Having a long term boyfriend or girlfriend and having sex with them is a lot more stable and you can trust them a lot more than other cases.

And yes I do think it's okay for two 12 year olds to fuck each other, provided they know what they are doing, why they are doing it, and if they are using protection. I don't see why it's anyone else's business. An 18 year old fucking a 10 year old is wrong because there is a substantial difference in experience and physical development, whereas between two 12 year olds there isn't much difference. That's why it's okay for a 30 year old to fuck a 40 year old.

People who fucked 20 people by age 14 are obviously deluded and aren't actually ready for sex - they aren't capable of deciding when having sex is appropriate. I'm not trying to defend those kind of people, what I'm trying to defend is consented sex between two people who are both physically and emotionally capable of handling it - and that is age irrelevant in my opinion. Once you get passed aged 10, people's maturity levels really start to come out.

Suki 10-30-2008 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laine (Post 618168)
Forget age; what matters is the maturity levels of the parties involved, I think. Yes, I'm unnecessarily making this sound legal.

As long as you are aware of the possible consequences and risks involved (both emotional and physical -- e.g. babies and diseases), I say go get it when you want it.

Agreed.

I think 16 is a good age to get started with sex.

Salvanas 10-30-2008 02:08 PM

To Alpha: There I disagree. Sure, years ago, kids were expected to have children by 15. But those times were different, the children had to mature quicker because of the times they lived in. I mean, people rarely lived past the age of forty in those days.

These days it's different. A 12 year old has NO INKLING of what the risks or what the consequences are. I mean, sure you can read up and so on, but have you ever heard of the saying "You've never know something until you've experienced it"? It's a true thing.

Yes, you can have mature 12 year olds. I mean, I'm mature for my age, and even at 12, my maturity was on the scale of a 20 year olds. Now, I know people will say "Age doesn't equal maturity", and in most cases I agree. But there's still a difference. A 12 year old, however mature they think they are, are never as mature as if they are 20.

There really is no discussion in that, it's the facts of life. A 12 year old will never be mature as a mature 20 year old. Because you are lacking in experience.

I mean, we have teen pregnancies due to that very thinking that as soon as someone hits puberty and deems himself/herself as ready then they can have sex.

My first time was with a 24 year old when I was 16. She could, and even has been classed as a pedo. But the reason I did it in the first place, was because she's experienced, and she had a more mature view towards sex other than people my age. She wasn't my GF, nor was I in a relationship with her. Does that mean I wasn't ready for sex Misa? I disagree. I was ready, and because I was ready, I went for a more mature way of having sex.

People at the age of 12/14 would not even think of such things. At the age of 12/14 it's hard to get condoms, let alone after sex pills.

MissMisa 10-30-2008 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salvanas (Post 618340)


My first time was with a 24 year old when I was 16. She could, and even has been classed as a pedo. But the reason I did it in the first place, was because she's experienced, and she had a more mature view towards sex other than people my age. She wasn't my GF, nor was I in a relationship with her. Does that mean I wasn't ready for sex Misa? I disagree. I was ready, and because I was ready, I went for a more mature way of having sex.

People at the age of 12/14 would not even think of such things. At the age of 12/14 it's hard to get condoms, let alone after sex pills.

No, I never said you have to be in a relationship to be ready for sex. It just is more stable if you are younger and having sex. You can get any pills or condoms just as easily at 12 as you would at 18. It's easier to get certain types of contraception at a younger age because it's free for minors.

MissMisa 10-30-2008 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshAussie (Post 618348)
Does "Puberty" and being able to cum make you mentaly mature enough to have sex? And do you trust the judgement of "Tweenies" if they said "Im ready for sex" just because theyve hit puberty? After all they are the only ones that can deem themselves mature enough to have sex.
.

No, that's why most people who have made the statement have said that they need to be physically and emotionally ready for sex. That doesn't always come after you've hit puberty. They are the only people that can deem themselves mature - sometimes they are blantantly not mature despite what they think of themselves - but they will go and have sex anyway. So rather than saying 'your too young to have sex' it's better to say, 'are you sure your ready? do you know the risks? are you using protection?' It's better to educate them properly so they can make sensible choices rather than just saying, YOU ARE TOO YOUNG.

Suki 10-30-2008 02:23 PM

I agree with Salvana's last post.

It's all a matter of maturity and being responsible enough to accept whatever consequence that might come along with it.

My best friend had sex at the age of 13. She was going out with a guy one year older than her, they were in love with each other and it just felt right, why should they have waited? I mean, I wouldn't recommand any 13 year-old person to go have sex, but the two of them were mature enough to be fully aware of what they were doing and I see nothing wrong with it.

My first time was at around 15/16. I don't regret anything about it and I would have done it earlier if it'd felt right at that moment, but it didn't; I waited until I felt not only ready but just willing to do it, if I had been 12 at that time then I would have done it still.

theAlphaDuck 10-30-2008 02:30 PM

i dunno....

i dont see why the BIG deal....

as long as no one is taking advantage
everyone knows what they are doing...
and people are sensible...

whats the big deal...

i think also it matters less for a boy than for a girl...

also.... if a 13 yr old boy has sex...how does that effect you?

if it makes him happy....it makes him happy

Salvanas 10-30-2008 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshAussie (Post 618360)
But this is the problem. - On Salvanas' Point. You can be mature (For your age) at 12 or whatever. But your never going to be as mature as someone that is actually older and has more life experience. (Well generally anyway)

Hmm - this is kind of hard to word. Sometimes i have trouble getting my thoughts/point accross in writing.

So i gotta try break it down.

'are you sure your ready? do you know the risks? are you using protection?'

If they answer "Yes" Does this then mean that they are ready? Are they mature enough to answer this question.. maturely?

So what Salvanas' said. They even might believe themselves to be ready. But just because they say they are ready and believe that they are ready. Doesnt actually mean they are mature enough for sex. They can think they are and tell you they are, but id place my bet on "No" theyre not actually ready.

And its basically impossible to tell. a 12 year old is a 12 year old. It would be almost impossible to get a 100% accurate super mature answer.

When I was writing my last post, this is exactly what I was trying to say. It is hard to word, so I don't think it's you. It's a hard thing to explain, thanks for making it more simpler.
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Quote:

And i dissagree with the relationship bit. 12 year olds cant have relationships deep enough (Without theyre being some sort of mental dillusions that are probably going to badly effect theyre personality later) to consider having sex.

"Weve been going out since we were 6, remember we met playing kiss chasy? we were such hussies back then. But i think weve been going out long enough and matured enough now to have sex. i mean come on, were 12. we arent getting any younger!"

Imagine that in a voice that hasnt even broken. Just doesnt "sit right" with me.
I could not agree with this more.


Salvanas 10-30-2008 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theAlphaDuck (Post 618359)
i dunno....

i dont see why the BIG deal....

as long as no one is taking advantage
everyone knows what they are doing...
and people are sensible...

whats the big deal...

i think also it matters less for a boy than for a girl...

also.... if a 13 yr old boy has sex...how does that effect you?

if it makes him happy....it makes him happy

Sure enough, it doesn't affect me. But it could affect their own lives.

Let's say a 13 year old had sex. Let's say this 13 year old deemed himself "ready for sex", and after having sex, got the girl pregnant. This does not ONLY affect the boy and girl, but also their parents. And also, if they decide to have the baby, it affects the baby's life aswell.

It's a very light thing saying "IT doesn't affect anyone, except for the person involved"

I could very well take it to the extremes aswell. If the boy and girl was scared that their parents would be angry, and ran away together. They make a new life, and struggle to survive, and that kid they had has a hard life growing up. What do you think the baby will grow up to be?

I have no doubts that the baby would grow up to be something bad, and it might very well kill someone. Then the problem (From when the baby was conceived) o longer just affects the boy and girl. IT now affects people that had their family member killed.

Sounds unlikely, but it's happened many times, and is still happening. So, Alpha, tell me again, how does this only affect the boy and girl?

Thunda 10-30-2008 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suki (Post 618335)
Agreed.

I think 16 is a good age to get started with sex.

Yeah. 16 is just good. For most people, there are always exceptions...sadly XD

theAlphaDuck 10-30-2008 03:06 PM

practically speaking though....

you can't STOP it happeneing....

so best bet to simply educate the kids..

and i have to admit that i am a bit of a hypocrite here...

but this is where i say the difference between girls and boy's..

if my daughter EVEN considered having a boyfriend before the age of 16...i will upside her head, take her to a doctor and get her fanny sewed up...but then its about upbringing...so i don't think it's something she is gonna WANT to do....

but If i had a SON....well thats different :P

obviosly two 12 year olds having sex is a bit.....hmmmm....but who are we to judge...and also...you can STOP them?

if you bring the debate into the real world...its a tricky one

Salvanas 10-30-2008 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theAlphaDuck (Post 618400)
practically speaking though....

you can't STOP it happeneing....

so best bet to simply educate the kids..

and i have to admit that i am a bit of a hypocrite here...

but this is where i say the difference between girls and boy's..

if my daughter EVEN considered having a boyfriend before the age of 16...i will upside her head, take her to a doctor and get her fanny sewed up...but then its about upbringing...so i don't think it's something she is gonna WANT to do....

but If i had a SON....well thats different :P

obviosly two 12 year olds having sex is a bit.....hmmmm....but who are we to judge...and also...you can STOP them?

if you bring the debate into the real world...its a tricky one

Ofcourse you can't stop them.

Nor can you prove there is a god. Nor can you actually prove that we exist. But they are all discussed.

DagothUr 10-30-2008 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theAlphaDuck (Post 618400)
practically speaking though....

you can't STOP it happeneing....

so best bet to simply educate the kids..

So, by your approach we should just educate people to kill and steal because, hey, we can't stop it, so why not tell them how to do it safely when they are inevitably going to commit these heinous acts.

theAlphaDuck 10-30-2008 03:13 PM

i think its more about HOW they go about it...

of course the idea of any man shagging my daughter.....i dont like it....

but it IS going to happen...at some point....

what matters is HOW she goes about it....

sure if she has SEX at the age of 12..or 14...or 16......or 18......
....or 25...... :P

im going to cry myself into a drunken abys...BUT...aslong as she does so with a GOOD mind....and not with some looser douchebag.....then i guess thats ok...

also...

if you tell your kid....you can't have sex...you can't look at boy's.....

well iv'e been with my fair share of catholic girls...i can ASURE you...that does not work ;)

theAlphaDuck 10-30-2008 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DagothUr (Post 618405)
So, by your approach we should just educate people to kill and steal because, hey, we can't stop it, so why not tell them how to do it safely when they are inevitably going to commit these heinous acts.

its worth pointing out that the country with the LOWEST teenage preganancy rate in the world...is holland

the country with the most comprehensive sex education programme in the world...HOLLAND

thats no co-inki-dink

DagothUr 10-30-2008 03:16 PM

[quote=theAlphaDuck;618408
also...

if you tell your kid....you can't have sex...you can't look at boy's.....

well iv'e been with my fair share of catholic girls...i can ASURE you...that does not work ;)[/QUOTE]

I agree with that, but you can't tell them that it is perfectly fine either. Sometimes as a parent you have to make a stand, otherwise, whats the point in being a parent at all?

DagothUr 10-30-2008 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theAlphaDuck (Post 618411)
its worth pointing out that the country with the LOWEST teenage preganancy rate in the world...is holland

the country with the most comprehensive sex education programme in the world...HOLLAND

thats no co-inki-dink

Ok, but still that doesn't mean that it's all the schools fault. I agree that schools play a vital role in education in ALL subjects, but there are still other factors. What I'm trying to say is that we can't just take something and say it's the word of God, you know? Examining ALL the elements is key.

MissMisa 10-30-2008 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DagothUr (Post 618405)
So, by your approach we should just educate people to kill and steal because, hey, we can't stop it, so why not tell them how to do it safely when they are inevitably going to commit these heinous acts.

Sex isn't a 'heinous act.' If people are going to have sex regardless, would you rather them do it, totally uneducated about STDs or pregnancy, or would you rather that they do it equipped with the knowledge they need to do it safely? Also, if we educate people properly, it will mean they are able to make the right choice in when to have sex, and this may prevent underage sex by people who are irresponsible, because they have the information to make the right choice.

theAlphaDuck 10-30-2008 03:25 PM

its not easy...

you gotta control your kid...mould thier mind...and make them do what YOU know is best for them....

but all the while....they gotta think it's thier own good idea.

but you should TELL your kids that SEX is fine.....your not telling them to go and do it....but let them understand its a beautifull thing....
be sure that YOU are the one that educates your child on SEX...otherwise he or she learns everything from the playground.....

the main thing to remember...is that you should NEVER treat sex as a taboo subject...be honest...be open...lay the facts bare....

you kinda got to trust your kid to make the right choice......

thats what parenting is about...

a child is NOT a dog...you cant keep it on a leash

DagothUr 10-30-2008 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MissMisa (Post 618419)
Sex isn't a 'heinous act.' If people are going to have sex regardless, would you rather them do it, totally uneducated about STDs or pregnancy, or would you rather that they do it equipped with the knowledge they need to do it safely? Also, if we educate people properly, it will mean they are able to make the right choice in when to have sex, and this may prevent underage sex by people who are irresponsible, because they have the information to make the right choice.

First off I wasn't trying to call sex a heinous act. I was simply using that description for murder and theft.
Second, yes, they should know how to do it safely.
Third, who says what kids will do with the information? I mean I went through a chemistry class and all I pulled out of it was how to make a bomb. Really, it all depends on the parents to instill the values and ethics into a child so that they can make the right decisions.

MissMisa 10-30-2008 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DagothUr (Post 618425)
First off I wasn't trying to call sex a heinous act. I was simply using that description for murder and theft.
Second, yes, they should know how to do it safely.
Third, who says what kids will do with the information? I mean I went through a chemistry class and all I pulled out of it was how to make a bomb. Really, it all depends on the parents to instill the values and ethics into a child so that they can make the right decisions.

Both of those things need to be incorporated to make sex safe and make it the right choice, I agree.

DSX 10-30-2008 04:01 PM

I believe that it should be whenever you and your partner are ready...And of course when there is protection to use.

With this subject, now I have to rant a bit:

Too many dumbasses at the schools in my city these days believe it's so wrong to be a virgin, and go off to have sex as much as possible. Lots of them go without condoms, and thus I see pregnant chick after pregnant chick. Hell, a friend of mine got knocked up last (school) year and she's fifteen years old, I kid you not.

Now, I might be one of the biggest pervs on here, but I'm not THAT damn sex crazy. Those other people are, but the main difference between them and I is that they aren't smart with it. It's a crying shame.

To this day, I don't see what's so wrong with being pure. It's not like it means you can't get any, and dammit, I'm proud to be a virgin amongst that crowd. Shows I have better judgement.


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